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AIBU?

to have expected my parents to buy me a house? Long and boring sorry!

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JealousAndUnreasonable · 08/02/2014 18:26

Well not 'a' house, my house! Three years ago DH, I and our 3 DCs moved abroad to start a new life after DH was made redundant here. We sold our house and had enough equity for two year's rent and to buy furniture and a car as it was too expensive to take our stuff with us.

DH was on a work visa (went over and got a job before we went) and the plan was after two years we would apply for permanent residence and get a mortgage at which point I could work as well.

Anyway in brief, the house we found to rent was no longer available when we got out there as out paperwork took longer to go through than anticipated (we used a relocation agency which cost £££'s). When we got over there, DH had to start his job straight away and we just could not find another house to rent as there was literally nothing available in our price range except for a house literally right next to a lake which was not ideal for our 2 and 3 year olds!

We met a mortgage broker by chance one day who told us he could get us a mortgage which was something we had not considered as we were not permanent residents. After 4 weeks in a hotel room with 3 DC who were driving me nuts and no school for the eldest as we had no permanent address, we jumped at the chance and put most of our money down on a beautiful family house, mortgage was very affordable on the basis that DH would get paid his contracted salary and it was an upcoming area which the agent assured us would mean the house prices would rise quickly. All good up to now!

Two months later DH's car skidded on ice (very cold winter), he was lucky to be alive but had to take 4 months off work with his injuries with no sick pay as he did not qualify! I could not work due to our visas either. Not eligible for any benefits at all. We were literally living on credit cards and cereal (not the DCs). When DH went back to work, his employers changed his job so his pay was less and as he had no legal protection (not a citizen, new employee) we were buggered. Immediately we put the house on the market as we realised we were not going to cope financially and at least we could take the equity and just rent anything, even a cheap apartment.

House would not sell even when we lowered the price to below what we'd paid for it. The reason being that the government started a scheme to encourage people to build their own houses by releasing cheap land which was much cheaper than buying one that had already been built. I was basically phoning every mortgage company begging them to give us a bigger mortgage so we could release equity that way but again was refused due to residency and DH's lower wage. He could not change jobs due to his visa or take an extra job. We were completely trapped.

I did something I had never done before which was to ask my mother and stepfather for help. They had sold their house some years before and had the money from that in a savings account as they were living abroad in a house provided by my stepdad's job. They were planning on buying a house again in a few years but did not need that money at that time. Knowing this, I asked my mother if they would consider buying our house from us so we could release the equity to top up DH's wage until we were eligible for permanent residence and he could get a better job and so I could work. We would pay them rent (more than the interest they were getting from the bank account) and they would then either sell the house back to us taking any increase in value for themselves or we would try and sell it again giving them the increase in value. We would have got a solicitor to draw it up legally etc. I was not interested in taking money from them, just in salvaging the mess we were in.

They said NO. It was our problem to sort out. We continued for another 6 months hoping to sell, getting further behind with the mortgage, stress causing me panic attacks and eventually handed the house keys to the mortgage company and flew home using credit which we still have not paid off. The bank sold our house a few months later and we got a total of £4k back from a £50k investment (same house is now on the market for $100k than we bought it for!). We have no hope of ever raising enough money for a deposit to buy another house here as we are paying over £1k in rent!

My mother has recently told me that she has bailed my younger sister out to the tune of over £70k in paying off her debts, paying her rent, paying her DCs nursery fees and buying clothes and furniture for her. Sister has split up with the father of her DCs (although he still pays for them and has them on weekends) and she needed their help more than us apparently. She not bothered that my DCs were made homeless and we had to come back to the UK and lose everything.

AIBU to be furious about this?

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OhTheDrama · 08/02/2014 19:42

YANBU in my opinion, your mother sounds like a cruel heartless woman IMO. I really don't know how you hold your tongue, I would have told her what I thought then cut contact. It doesn't sound like she is much of a mother to treat her children differently and stand by and watch you struggle in your darkest hour, knowing they had the means to help you.

Also the cheek of them expecting you to help them get into Canada and moaning that you can't help them now!!! I would pull her up on that every time she mentions it! She sounds selfish and toxic. Is your dad still on the scene, is that what could be their problem?

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Logg1e · 08/02/2014 19:45

It's a lot of good money for them to throw away after bad. Why should they be expected to invest their nest egg where banks refuse?

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sarahquilt · 08/02/2014 19:47

YABU My dad has given my brother about 40000 and me nothing. It irks me but I still wouldn't just expect him to buy me a house. He wouldn't anyway!

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Creamycoolerwithcream · 08/02/2014 19:48

Thats what I think Logg1e. It's not as if OP 's mother had a paid of home and loads and loads of savings.

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Liara · 08/02/2014 19:51

Did you give them the option of lending you enough to see you through the bad times?

I think the proposition you made, although it was probably fair, is asking them to go to deep into an unknown asset/situation. They might have preferred to let you keep the risk and just lend you some money.

However, she does sound like she plays favourites, and that is never, ever OK.

For that and for that only, I would distance myself from her.

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Logg1e · 08/02/2014 19:54

And I agree with Liara. I certainly wouldn't accept money from somebody I didn't like.

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Corygal · 08/02/2014 19:58

YANBU. Favouritism stinks. But at least you don't owe them anything.

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Oblomov · 08/02/2014 19:58

You didn't plan very well.
But everyone knows that prioritising a sibling rather than you , HURTS, big time.
I think posts have been unreasonable and harsh.
And no my parents have never done it to me, but I can imagine the hurt, if they did.

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SparklyTwinkleGlitter · 08/02/2014 19:58

YABU.

You moved overseas without a Plan B other than assuming your DM would bail you out.

You struggled to find somewhere affordable to rent so you saddled yourself with a mortgage despite not having permanent residency?

I'm sorry, but you are clearly nuts.

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oldgrandmama · 08/02/2014 20:02

Well, I agree OP is acting a bit unreasonable in expecting her mama and stepdad to bail her out ... but on the other hand, for myself, I've always treated my two kids (now middle aged) absolutely equally in helping them out financially to set themselves up. And I still do, with cash birthday and Christmas presents, also the grandkids. But I'm not surprised the OP feels a bit miffed when she hears about the sister's handouts.

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harriet247 · 08/02/2014 20:04

Yanbu imo.maybe unreaaonable to expect them to buy the whole house, but if you were my dd i would have minimum given you what you needed to get home and get on your feet. Perhaps she thought it was down to your dh to sort it? I only say that because you said your sister is single.

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Holdthepage · 08/02/2014 20:07

Your parents money is not yours. However annoying favouritism is, it's their money to dispose of as they deem fit. YABU.

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JealousAndUnreasonable · 08/02/2014 20:08

We did not expect to need to be bailed out.

Never 'assumed' parents would help out. We had never needed any help.

So people on here would see their grown up children and grandchildren lose everything when they were in a position to avoid that happening with very little risk involved? Really? I am obviously a different kind of mother to most on here.

I am trying to figure out what the 'mistake' we made was. Was it DH having an accident?

'Clearly nuts' to buy a house rather than rent? Really?

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Logg1e · 08/02/2014 20:11

We had never needed any help I thought you wanted them to buy your house?

very little risk involved

If that's true the banks would have loaned you money or you'd have had a buyer.

'Clearly nuts' to buy a house rather than rent? Really?

That's not what people are saying. I think they're referring to your emigration strategy and not having researched the rights of immigrants.

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JealousAndUnreasonable · 08/02/2014 20:14

Parents had over £250k in cash in bank which they freely mentioned. We needed £80K. They WERE getting something in return. In fact they would have got a very good return.

If you can't rely on family for help in really tough times, who can you?

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Joysmum · 08/02/2014 20:17

Your sister was going through a divorce, you chose to take a risk and made piss poor financial decisions.

There's a member if my own family who is just as surprised at things not working out did to her piss poor risk taking despite everyone else warning her and seeing it coming a mile off.

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JealousAndUnreasonable · 08/02/2014 20:18

FFS Logg1e try learning to read before commenting.

We could hardly have researched the risks of DH having a fatal car crash could we now? The dip in the housing was temporary, we knew it would pick back up but we could not afford to wait without help.

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Idespair · 08/02/2014 20:19

You had some very bad luck and I think your mum should have helped you if she was able to but I don't think she should have bought that house. It was not selling and banks would not lend any more against it so I can see why she would not buy it. She should have helped you in some other way, perhaps assisting you with paying the mortgage as that was probably a few hundred pounds a month rather than the ££££ needed to be spent by her to buy the house from you. Yanbu to be hurt by the 70k she bailed your sister out with. That's quite a horrifying amount and a fraction of that could have tided your mortgage over whilst your dh was ill and before you were able to get a job as well. But I expect she is pleased you are back in the uk. Probably she didn't want to help you remain abroad.

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JealousAndUnreasonable · 08/02/2014 20:20

OOops We could hardly have researched the risks of DH having a near fatal car crash could we now?

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Caboodle · 08/02/2014 20:20

OP - I was only thinking about this before; I think people are being harsh on you; you and your DH were unlucky mostly (and as for renting - it's a money drain; I wouldn't want to live near a lake either with small DCs). I would, if I could, help my child in this situation - especially if they had little 'uns. Can you talk to your DM about this? Will she listen / understand how the favouritism makes you feel?

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Logg1e · 08/02/2014 20:20

That's a quarter of the money they need for their house purchase OP. You couldn't guarantee any return. If you could, the banks or buyers would have been interested.

I do think you took a risk, and good for you, but it didn't pay off.

But even if the money was just there in a savings account, it's up to them what they spend it on.

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Feminine · 08/02/2014 20:20

I feel sorry for you op

I think there is masses to sort out with your parents. They haven't been fair. I can see why you might feel like shit.

Thanks

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Caboodle · 08/02/2014 20:21

And people seem to be fairly blasé about your DH's accident....

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Divinity · 08/02/2014 20:21

I feel for you about the favouritism and that they could have saved your house but chose not to. I would understand if they were wary of buying property abroad and declined on these grounds but they basically dismissed you and your family while propping up your sister.

Unfortunately there is nothing you can do except pick yourself up and carry on after learning some very hard lessons financially and family-wise. Best of luck to you.

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Logg1e · 08/02/2014 20:22

OP, We could hardly have researched the risks of DH having a fatal car crash could we now?

I didn't mean your husband's car crash, I meant health insurance, mortgages for immigrants, the housing market etc.

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