To ask what would happen in your child's school?

[MySideOfTheFence]

If your child was hurt by another child to the point of ripped clothing and bleeding hands and knees,what would happen? Would the parents be rang,punishment etc. Child was hurt while waiting in line not through play or sport.

I don't know what my dc school would do but I'll be damned if id accept anything less than the offending child being suspended. That's serious.

What did your school do?

Nothing. They didn't even ring the parents.

I am thinking of lodging a formal complaint.

It would be taken very seriously. Both sets of parents called etc. thorough investigation of what happened and then dealt with appropriately.

I don't know exactly what they would do as I have not come across that situation personally but I know they wouldn't ignore the situation. They have a good policy on bullying, fighting etc. and no-one gets away with it.

I was talking to the principal and he agreed it was a serious incident. Why it was not treated as such at the time is beyond me.

It would be taken seriously. I don't know whether the injured child parent's would be told before the end of the school day (if they were fine to stay at school).

The other child and their parents' would be in the head mistresses office that day.

How do you know the other parents weren't phoned? Under Data Protection the school cannot discus with you any sanctions or actions taken. They can only assure you it has been dealt with. It is neither here nor there what playground gossip you may pickup.

And you haven't said what happened. Was it "bullying" or just barging about that caused a child to fall and get grazed?

I don't think much would happen at my kids' school, sadly - unless the victim's parent kicks up a fuss, and I absolutely think you should.

That should be a suspension.

Hope your dc is OK

I don't know what they would do because they wouldn't tell me how they'd dealt with another child/family. I trust them to take appropriate action.

I suspect DS1's high school would go down some sort of fixed period exclusion route.

It depends what exactly you mean by bleeding hands and knees and ripped clothes.

If it was a spot of red on one hand and one knee with a tiny tear in something that was easily ripped, then we'd probably deal with it at school and the teacher would call the parent over for a chat at the end of the day.

If it there was enough bleeding to use plasters in more than one place and the tear was obviously done very aggressively, then parents would be informed over the phone.

If you are certain nothing was done a complaint is definitely in order.

School will probably go all coy and claim the perpetrating DC has the right to privacy. Maybe they do, maybe they don't, my DDs went to the leakiest gossip shop of a village primary.

What is indisputable is schools have a duty to keep there pupils safe and you can very forcibly remind them.

It would depend exactly on how it happened. Ripped clothes, bleeding hands and knees can occur through an accident not necessarily a malicious act and I would expect them to be treated differently. If for example a child has run up to the line but misjudged things and not stopped in time resulting in another child being knocked over and the injuries caused that way then no I wouldn't expect parents to be called in but if a child has maliciously pushed another over to cause the injuries then I would.

They would come down on the perpetrator like a ton of bricks. Interview, isolation, parents in, possible suspension...

I also think it depends on the age of the child. YR children pushing about in a dinner queue (albeit not good behaviour) is different from Y6 kids, who should know better so it is more likely to be bullying than general argy bargy-ing. I'd say till Y3 (ie. Infants) this kind of incident could be dealt with at school by speaking to parents at pick up. I certainly wouldn't expect a child under Y3 to be suspended for something like this, or in fact even older.

I agree the ripped clothes and bleeding sounds very dramatic, but it depends what is meant by this. My ds was bullied a bit at school. Even when I saw it myself and spoke to the Head and Deputy, it was all dealt with in school by them speaking to the children.

If you're talking about what would my school do. Probably very little. In our Junior school a child stamped on another child and broke their leg. They were not suspended! Now that was taking leniency a little bit toooo far, I think. It was a Y6 child who does have issues, but still not right the way it was dealt with.

When mentioned to the parent of the other child they knew nothing about it. The hands were grazed and bleeding more than a spot and the clothing was ripped and frayed. It was a deliberate incident on behalf of the other child.

How old are they?

The children are ten.

It would be taken seriously. Dd had the corner of her eye injured once by playing. (Friend was skipping and clocked Dd in the face with the hard handle bit as it flewout their hand). I was rang iimmediately and incident forms were filled out etc there and then ready for me to collect with her at hometime. Deliberately being hurt would have resulted in the Parents being told if a one off or hauled into the office if repeated with warnings of suspension I would imagine.

I would be more cross if it was my child that was the perpetrator and nothing was done about it or if I didn't know about it than if my child was the victim. If they're the victim then at least you'll find out - if they're turning into a bully and nobody tells you then by the time you do find out I imagine it would be much harder to change that pattern of behaviour. If I were in that position I would want to make a joint complaint.

OP at age 10 you are old enough to understand the consequences of your actions. Speak to the head again and make a complaint. What does the school think they're teaching a y5 y6 child about responsibility

If there was no head injury, the school's First Aider would deal with the grazing and bleeding and write the details of any treatment on an accident form.

The cause of the injuries would be dealt with separately. I think the teacher would probably ask for a quick word at the end of the school day. The school would investigate but it's highly likely that the parents of the injured child wouldn't be told the results.

Yes, 10 is plenty old enough to have this dealt with more seriously.

At the primary school I work at (and that DS and DD1 go to) the teacher/midday assistant who was 'first on scene' would take both kids aside and get their version of events and get bleeding child patched up.

With a physical incident like that, it gets automatically referred to the headteacher/deputy who speak to both children. Both parents would be contacted by letter that day. Incident report would be written up and logged on the system (that's my job!).

WRT punishment, the child who got physical with the other would spend lunchtime writing a sorry letter to the other child and filling out a 'What I Can Do Better' sheet (what happened, who with, why did it happen, what I should do next time). If the bleeding child was found to have provoked the other child, they would receive a punishment too, although a less severe one.

Parents are told that the incident was dealth with 'in accordance with our behaviour policy'. They're not told exactly which punishment was meted out to the other child, but it is easy to infer as punishments are standardized across the school (i.e. physical incidents are always dealt with in the same way, provocation is always dealt with the same way) and the actions/consequences rulebook is sent out to parents at the beginning of the year.

Could be that the other child has been punished, but the teacher/head who dealt with it really should have informed you. Likewise, you should have been told by phonecall or note in message book that your child was in an incident.

Our school wouldn't tell you who the other child was (but obviously my own child will tell me!)
The other day DDs best friend hit her over the head with a wooden rolling pin! I had a phone call when it happened as does with all head injuries but she was fine. The other child had a think sheet which I presume goes home (we have never had one) as dd ha da card with written apology inside the next day. They are only 5 though so wouldn't expect anything more than that.