To think the term Schemie is even more reprehensible than Chav?

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After reading another thread where baby names are being declared Chav or schemie by the op and a few others my blood is boiling a bit.

I live in Scotland and the phrase schemie gets used interchangeably with ned and chav.

I think schemie is by far the worst of the three. Chav and ned are nasty terms of abuse, but refer to a type of behaviour/manner of dress /lifestyle that the (ignorant) speaker is describing.

Schemie goes a step further (a housing scheme is the term used in Scotland for council estate) implies that an undesirable person or behaviour in type of behaviour is exclusive to and representive of people who live in local authority housing. My mother, grandparents and a lot of my friends grew up in council homes and not a single one of them display behaviour which could be described as 'schemie'

Expat I was just round the corner from queen Charlotte street

Ned is not used by someone wanting to look down on someone of a lower social class.

A ned is a particular type of kid who thinks he is hard and has no respect for anyone or anything.

IME schemie isn't used like chav either but to describe someone errr rough. (Sorry..I dont use it)

That pub was mingin! Was also called The Lorna Doone for a while. Almost as bad as that Tam O'Shanter place in Great Junction Street.

Of course, they were young lads and went there because it was the cheapest alcohol going.

Schemie is a word I learned when I moved to Edinburgh as a student. It's not commonly used in Aberdeenshire where I grew up. Tink or tinker were the insults of choice there. To call someone a tink is probably the worst thing I can think of - and it's based on gypsy travellers so also nicely bigoted.

Schemie is definitely used to describe people as well as places!

Agree that chav is frequently used to describe Katie Price and it's not about income, it's about someone's style/values. Tango face, Burberry, platinum blonde extensions, French manicured fake nails, Juicy Couture tracksuits etc etc.

It got shortened when my dad told me to stop being offensive to bin men as at least they had a job. Then we'd say "You scaff" the way that Gavin and Smithy say "You slag"

And the word I really hated was "Did you BAG OFF with him?" Bag off??? for a snog.

I know the place then, Wee! Nearer Port O' Leith or Holmes Bar?

Hmm, I'm noting a bar theme here. :o

Years and years ago DH took me to the auld salt pub up leith walk!! Oh ya bugger I'd thought I'd seen life till I went in there lol, can you tell my DH is a classy bugger

WeeLady we appear to be area neighbours too. I lived in the Hailes and in calders.

Expat nope bowlers rest pub was one end and hoggys pub was the other

OMG! We had my Japanese exchange student friend come across and she wanted to go in there, Wee! We are like, 'Um, no.'

Groovee hahahaha a bag off not heard that in years "did ye get a bag off"

That's right bin men were scaffies

Ah, no, I'm a Weegie. 'pure scaffie'... the worst of the worst! Followed by clatty

Muirhouse here!

The flat we used to live in has been torn down - about 20 years past when it should have been

The stairs all had those old rubbish chutes. Wee . . . erm, were forever petrol bombing the things for a laugh.

Stat I was in the ybt good old broomie

Love how this thread has turned in to all the ex scheemies! ;)

I think ita hilarious that someone on this thread feels sorry for Neds because people call them that..the wee shites I have met deserve worse names tbh

Do you know what though expat yip we came from rougher than rough areas and you get some bams but there's a hell of a lot of good hearted people in these areas eh

I remember reading the word 'tink' in Sunset Song - it's a fairly old word, isn't it? Part of Scots dialect?
Which goes to show that people were just as rude about their neighbours at the end if the 19th century as they are now.

Stat I'm a firm believer in "never forget where you come from" scheemies are the best

Never heard anyone Scottish say chav.grew up in a scheme,so nonplussed by schemie
ned and schemie,can't say I'm bothered as they're simply in a myriad of words

Ubik a tinks like a gypsy but gypsys hate being called tinks

Sunset Song- oh my God the worst book ever! Higher English flashback!

True, Weelady. We have very good friends in Muirhouse still and another good friend in Magdalene/The Jewel. DD1 was from Muirhouse, DD2 from Leith, but well, they still gave DS pitying looks when DS would say, 'I'm from Paisley.'

I was born in Craigmiller. Believed for years that we lived in Pepper Street, not Peffer Street. When I was 2 moved to Slateford as they knocked our flats down.

A lot of DH family were from muirhoose/pilton/drylaw area

My ds1 is a leither
Ds2 was sighthill and dd was stenhouse I sound like a bloody gypsy haha