To be pissed off about the so called healthy eating advice we've been given for years ?

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I did the Atkins diet about 8 years ago when it was considered faddy and dangerous. Low fat was the healthy way to go. I got so much hostility about it, almost like I was a climate change denier. To my surprise,I lost 2 stone easily and quickly. Unfortunately I got scared by all the health warnings about how bad it was for you so eventually went back to a ' normal' diet. And put it all on again. Am currently watching the C4 doc about how sugar is bad for you. Of course it bloody is !!

Why can't the authorities wake up and realise its not fat that makes you fat? It's sugar and fast acting carbs.

It's time we had a major overhaul in our thinking about what really makes us fat...

Yes, Sinister, but you'd also be suffering from malnutrition.

I lost just under 5 stone last year low carbing.... I took my eye off the ball ( and stopped running and exercise class) over Xmas and put on just under a stone

Low carbed since jan 1 and now it's back to 5 stone off

And you'd be bored and pissed off YouTheCat

How is cutting out sugar making money procrastinating?

That too, Sinister, and have a lifetime aversion to lettuce.

The whole point of low carbing is that you DON'T cut out sugar/carbs but you do reduce them and increase your fat intake instead.

There was a huge case in Sweden a few years ago where a doctor who advised LCHF diets to her patients went before the Swedish equivalent of the GMC. It took over two years to resolve and ended with them finding no case against her as the evidence was there to support her.

In Sweden it is now accepted that LCHF is a healthy way to eat....and as butter sales have risen...so their obesity levels have decreased. Food for thought.

Books for a start. Then it will be no-sugar processed foods, and possibly even a no-sugar diet group.

Low carbing is the antithesis of a faddy diet! It's how we evolved to eat, low carb, high fat unprocessed food- no Tesco or flour mills in those them caves!

Agree, eating too much food makes you fat. People are really over obsessing about food at the moment. Just eat less FFS. Do you really think people used to worry about how many carbs or how much fat they were eating , before the 'obesity epidemic' ?
No they didn't. They ate whatever was available and affordable, and considered themselves lucky if they weren't actually hungry.

Robert Atkins died at age 72.

Low carb diets are fine if you like to eat a lot of meat, fish, cheese, eggs, dairy and fat and no fruit, carby vegetables like carrots or sweetcorn (let alone potatoes), bread, pasta, rice, alcohol, honey or sugar in any form (obv). It is a massively restrictive diet and some people find it hard to sustain.

None of the naturally slim people I know eat any kind of restrictive diet. They just aren't greedy and they move a lot.

What books? Not seen any
Processed food without sugar? That's no bad thing....

Mankind have evolved without sugar for many years, it was only introduced into diets relatively recently . The obesity crisis is relatively new to humans too.

I actually couldn't believe it when I was eating everything I had been told my whole life would make me fat and the weight just dropped off me. Steak. Cream. Butter etc. I lost 10 pound in 2 weeks. Had so much more energy and didn't have that mid afternoon slump. My skin looked great and even my moods got better. Wish I'd stuck to it but carbs are everywhere and got scared about long term effects.

eat less (of everything) exercise more - no need to ban anything - just use a bit of moderation

It's time we had a major overhaul in our thinking about what really makes us fat...

But we already know what makes people fat - too many calories and not enough exercise.
You can eat whatever you want as long as you are active enough to burn it off.

Also ate more vegetables than I had ever eaten before!

That depends when you see human evolution ending Salbertina.

There have been flour mills for a very long time, presumably we have evolved a bit since then.

fatlazymummy nothing to do with moving more as well then?

The Atkins diet gave me gallstones. And gave a colleague of mine a severe digestive disorder. So it wasn't very healthy. But I agree we have been given conflicting advice. I think cutting down on sugar and wheat and not having too much high fat foods is a good start. But it's following the advice that's the hard bit! I think all these low fat diet meals are a complete con.

Apparently our bodies haven't evolved, therein lies the problem.

And we are now a society of 'snackers'.... That's relatively new too

Can't even sit through a 2 hour film without snacks and nibbles it seems

Scarlet, don't feel too bad, medical research shows nearly everyone who diets puts it all back on again within two years - with a little bit extra on top. It's not just you and it's not just people who do Atkins and then go back to not-Atkins.

It is worth looking at a website called The Diet Doctor...a Swedish doctor who is almost evangelical about LCHF...his DD is 3 and they have always given her a high fat and low carb diet with no issues.

I definitely think the research is on his side.....and to be fair with the current health dietary advice we have seen a massive rise in diabetes. People following LCHF diets find their blood results, their blood pressure and other health markers massively improve with sustained use of this way of eating.

I can't maintain low carb though but am eating as low carb as I can go in a way I can maintain for life with exceptions for nights out etc. I am convinced by it.....but can't totally follow it.

The Atkins diet works because people eat less calories when they cut out carbs and sugar. It's not a particularly healthy or balanced diet though.

Good fat is fine - as long as you don't overdo it, but the fat that most people eat, is not good fat.
I agree that going for low fat options is not good, but nor is eating lots of fatty red meat.

Ultimately, it does come down to balance.
If you are several stone overweight, it is almost certainly because you consume more calories than you use. Reducing carbs, bad fats and sugar, is a very good way of reducing your calorie intake. This is nothing new.

Sugar appears to be in absolutely everything!

Except lettuce, maybe.

Agree Joules - but more than nibbles, mammoth popcorn portions to watch a mid afternoon movie along with mammoth coke? Obscene! And all while sitting on one's bum!