To be pissed off about the so called healthy eating advice we've been given for years ?

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I did the Atkins diet about 8 years ago when it was considered faddy and dangerous. Low fat was the healthy way to go. I got so much hostility about it, almost like I was a climate change denier. To my surprise,I lost 2 stone easily and quickly. Unfortunately I got scared by all the health warnings about how bad it was for you so eventually went back to a ' normal' diet. And put it all on again. Am currently watching the C4 doc about how sugar is bad for you. Of course it bloody is !!

Why can't the authorities wake up and realise its not fat that makes you fat? It's sugar and fast acting carbs.

It's time we had a major overhaul in our thinking about what really makes us fat...

The other big fraud is exercise being a big part of helping you lose weight. It's good for you for other reasons, but it takes 30 mins of brisk walking to work off 1 piece of buttered toast. Far quicker and easier not to eat the toast. I'm afraid "exercise more" is yet another way the food industry tries to shift the blame.

My favourite jaw dropping food industry misinformation is the calorie content of a 500 ml bottle of fizzy drink (kind sold at stations and news agents) being calculated as amount in half a bottle as though you are going to carefully take it home half full and put it in the fridge and have the rest later in the week.

Obviously if you ran home instead of taking the train you'd be fine.

Baby, I did no such thing and had a very healthy baby. I ate plenty of vegetables and pulses instead, as well as small amounts of potato, rice and pasta. And the odd bit of chocolate cake!

And they tell you the gross calories burned - your body burns 70kcals an hour seeing to everyday functions, so if an hour's walk burns 200kcal you need to deduct 70 kcal that your body would have burned anyway to get your net calorie burn. Walking off calories takes forever!

I always feel absolutely vile on low carb/high fat diets. I lost weight, still am losing weight on the 5.2 and basically just eating less, cutting out the crap etc. I've got friends who've lost loads of weight low carbing, I've also got lots of friends who do slimming world which sounds basically low fat to me and they have lost alot of weight too.

Losing weight doesn't necessarily equate to a healthy diet though supercosy, there are many effective diets out there, the test is what happens after you've lost the weight...

Low carbing is unsustainable for me in the long term. I like carbs. I prefer just to eat less of everything and cut out treats like chocolate.

I personally wouldn't even attempt a low carb diet. I'm a vegetarian and I don't want to eat eggs every day or pretend meat. Most of all though I find fatty foods gross and disgusting. I think it's pointless trying to follow a diet that consists of foods that you hate.

I was about to say exactly what you just said jaded

My favourite jaw dropping food industry misinformation is the calorie content of a 500 ml bottle of fizzy drink (kind sold at stations and news agents) being calculated as amount in half a bottle as though you are going to carefully take it home half full and put it in the fridge and have the rest later in the week.

If you wanted to drink a healthy drink you wouldn't have a fizzy drink in the first place, it's hardly jaw dropping that it's marketed in that way, what I think is more shocking is that that there's considered to be a 'healthy' amount of fizzy drinks to have - if anyone wants to be healthy then avoid them full stop

I don't drink fizzy drinks. I was just killing time in a station cafe and noticed the calorie content because it was so prominently displayed on the side of the bottle and was surprised that it was so low. It was only when I checked the small print that I realised that it was deliberate misdirection and that it was calculated on the basis of not drinking half the bottle.

There are a few chocolate bars that do that too merrymouse couldn't swear to it but I think it might be twix that has the calories for one finger on the front. Some sweets too-I think maybe fruit gums has the calories per eight sweets.

I've noticed that the "per serving" nutritional information on packets is often based on an unrealistically tiny serving.

Per serving nutrition on not particularly large pizzas is usually for no more than a quarter.

I know what you mean and I always tend towards whole foods anyway and wouldn't do a slimmer's world type diet but I don't agree that my friend who does do it is less healthy now that she's lost 5 stone on it than when she was 16 stone. She looks brilliant, has loads of energy and has developed a much greater liking for veg and fruit and less sugary drinks and snacks.

Sid, I might pass that onto my friend then. She's in France and, despite the GD, has been told that a croissant every day is absolutely fine for her and baby. As if it would be a breach of human rights to deny oneself a croissant!

I'm pg and have bad morning sickness.
I eat what I can/fancy/tolerate/crave ATM - only 15 weeks in I had lost 9lbs simply because I eat way less.

that's eat.
there are no secrets. quality and quantity are both important.

what I hate more than sugar is artificial sweeteners. they are poison and I think the government pushes them instead of sugar to cull the nation.

*That's it

not that's eat!

I was shocked to realise that a half-bottle 250 ml serving of Coke is the same as drinking a cup of tea with five sugars in it. I couldn't stomach tea that sweet but with Coke you don't seem to notice it as much.

Zing I had hyperemesis. My weight plummeted to begin with as I couldn't eat anything. Then they managed to control the vomiting with multiple drugs and I was able to eat although only some foods (mainly high in starchy carbs) and not much of them either. However after being damn near starved my weight started to climb even though I was eating no where near the number of calories I should have needed. I ended that pregnancy four stone heavier and still do not understand how as it meant I effectively gained about five stone from week 14 ish onwards. Now my metabolism appears to be stuffed in some way. I go on a low calorie diet, I drop a few pounds in the first week then that's it. No more. Zip. Nada.

I'm glad you think it's that simple but for some of us it just isn't. We're not stupid or lazy, or in denial about how much we eat-our bodies just have got screwed up somehow. However from what i understand because of I the amount of added sugar and crap in food now the number of people with issues processing these foods is increasing too. And once the issues there plain calorie counting no longer works.

jadedangel that's the impression I got from the low carb threads . It was eating either eggs, quorn or cheese (which I do like ) for protein, and things like butter, mayonnaise, salad dressing, cream, full fat milk etc. to make up the calories. Not for me.

Stat

of course it's not that simple in RL, but I think it's a better rule of thumb than cutting out entire food groups.
we are omnivores after all and should eat all sorts of food.

sorry for your health troubles and if I upset you.

In any case I didn't need to eat a 'low carb' diet. I lost weight and am very healthy eating the foods I like,which includes things like bread, potatoes, and rice.
I don't like fizzy drinks at all, so they weren't an issue for me. Neither were pizzas.

I don't know zing, I think the advice probably needs to change to a lower carb approach-not super low cutting everything out but I think the current food pyramid high carb low fat advice is much too far the other way. Rates of diabetes are going through the roof and I think this advice is a factor.

However I also don't cut out entire food groups-I don't class sugar as a food groupand I do eat carbs but just those which occur in veg and fruit. I eat far more veg low carbing than otherwise as it replaces the pasta or potatoes.