to wish people would use the correct name for my country?

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I love living in the UK but I do wish people were better educated about the country right next door. Particularly its name.

The Constitution of Ireland sets out that there are two official names for the country, Ireland and Éire. Éire should only be used when speaking in the Irish language. Therefore it is correct for people in the UK to say Ireland when talking about that fab country next door!

Northern Ireland is a seperate place and is part of the UK.

Republic of Ireland is a description as opposed to a name. For political reasons FIFA forces the football team to use this name.

The term 'Southern Ireland' is very offensive and should not be used ever. It has strong historical connotations and was used by the English government as a way to avoid recognising the independence of Ireland. I understand that people genuinely do not know this and don't always mean to be offensive as so many people in England use it so casually.

I often see on here people referring to Irish accents and sayings as 'regional'. This is incorrect, Ireland is not a region of the UK no more than France or Spain are.

Isn't it more like the "e" in "egg" followed by a rolled "r" followed by the dd. And

I do believe the "dd is called a voiced interdental fricative as opposed to the unvoiced interdental fricative in "thing".

. I only did one term of linguistics. German ones.

ukatlast Would you call my sons birth place "?????????? ?????????" out of interest? Because technically thats correct, though I doubt most people find it necessary

I am simply querying your assertion that 'we don't have an official interest any more than in Angola'. The British government has an official interest in Ireland and I am sure some of your compatriots have an interest in current affairs in Ireland given that they were subjected to terrorist attacks arising out of current affairs in Ireland. Mrs Thatcher was nearly killed in the Brighton bomb so I dare say she had a bit of an interest in current affairs in Ireland.

Mrs Thatcher had sufficient jurisdiction to allow her to co-sign the Hillsborough Agreement in 1985 which gave Ireland an advisory role in the affairs of Northern Ireland. She also agreed that if the majority of people on the island of Ireland wished to become one country then the British governement would not object. I would call this having an official interest in the affairs of Ireland.

Mrs Thatcher perpetrated injustices carried out in Ireland by British governments for hundred of years including the 6 million people who starved or emigrated during the famine while its British rulers stood by and did nothing. I realise the famine didn't happen yesterday but Tony Blair saw it appropriate to apologise for this injustice when he was the prime minister. Mrs Thatcher allowed people in Northern Ireland to be murdered by British forces on Northern Ireland soil. Some of these people were only resident in Northern Ireland as a result of decisions taken by the Irish Boundary Commission set up by the British government under its UK Government of Ireland Act in 1921. Mrs Thatcher also permitted plastic bullets to be used in Northern Ireland, the only place in the UK where plastic bullets were legal.

UK citizens have no duty to be interested in Ireland but as its closest neighbour I think it would be very strange if they had no interest whatsoever. A significant number of people living in Britain have an Irish heritage. People born in Northern Ireland can chose to hold a British or Irish passport. You also mention that it is not a matter for UK voters to intervene in Ireland's business. UK voters in Northern Ireland did precisely this when they voted for the Good Friday Agreement in 1998.

yes yes yes yes "e" like egg followed by a rolled R

Iw more like "eeeuuuuuew"

Maryz, a lot if Irish who live in Northern Ireland would call it Ireland. I remember when a teenager being soundly told off for saying I came from Northern Ireland rather than Ireland. Or are the Irish in Northern Ireland not proper irish despite holding the exact same passport as those from the south/republic? It just feels odd as a nordie to call it Ireland when to many Northern Ireland is also Ireland. As I said - definitely a bit of a historic anomaly due to the constitution at the time referring to the whole island, and rather irritating for those in roi to insist on "Ireland" at all times and even when in the context it's being used it leads to confusion. Obviously as I said for business/ official purposes I use Ireland.

I so love the fact that MN supports cyrillic now.

Not so difficult translierated - Respublika Kazachstan

ch being like loch

There's isn't anything you can call Northern Ireland that will satisfy all its residents. I just feel 'Northern Ireland' is the least likely to cause arguments.

Kew
The app doesn't support it. It's makes for a very interesting place name.

I don't like Sour Krauts. I prefer the Itagliatellians.

The Six Counties? I've heard it called that. What connotations does that have, Irish folk? Is that a Republican thing?

Is it an interesting pictogram of some sort? How exciting!

Oh and I forget to mention that the Queen is our newest BFF!

hester the six counties are Northern Ireland.
Or, nine in Ulster.
Clear?

Um. No Yes. A bit.

I know. Pleasantness. And reasonableness. It really isn't on.

OK, what do we call that rugby team? You know, the one that tours every four years. The one from the home nations.

Hester, Ulstermen have fewer fingers than most Irish people so counting is not their forte.

well we called them Wales in our house (given the make-up of the team in 2013)

Hester, the six counties is a bit of a republican thing. Northern Ireland is definitely the best thing to call that part of the island. I just reckon we need a new name for the rest if the island!

Is Irish stew only served in The South?

The Nine Counties Minus the Three That Are Geographically Part of Ulster And Northern Ireland But Not Part Of The Northen Ireland Included As Part Of The United Kingdom of Great Britain And Northern Ireland

It just trips off the tongue!