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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To want my sister to move our of the parental home?

64 replies

struggling100 · 07/01/2014 15:56

Sorry, this is long! I have too many very personal emotions about this to know if I am thinking straight.

My sister is in her mid 30s and has always lived at home, apart from a one-year period when she moved out to go to college, and then moved back almost immediately.

She has a well paid job and has been with the same guy (who is lovely) for over a decade. He also works. Their income together must be around £80,000 a year, so enough to buy a house even in an expensive place. Yet they both live at home.

The official reason she refuses to move out is because she is 'anxious'. I believe this - it is a family trait that I share. But she is completely functional to work and do everything else that she wants to do. I know this sounds awful, but I think the real motivation for her to be there is simply greed and convenience. My parents allow her to live there on a very small rent. She has consequently been able to save a massive deposit for her first home, which will allow her to skip several rungs of the housing ladder and move straight into a property that most ordinary people would have to save into their 50s to afford.

My parents do a great deal of things for her: washing, ironing, they make her breakfast and they cook for her. It is like she is living a lifestyle with two servants to take care of her. The house is chock-full of stuff, and is increasingly untidy, despite my Mum liking things neat. My parents have repeatedly said that they are fed up with the situation, and I am concerned about their wellbeing. I want them to be able to enjoy their retirement in their own space. I also worry about her, because I don't think it can be good for someone in the long term to be dependent on others. What would happen to her if (god forbid) something happened to my parents?

But I am also very aware that I have personal feelings about this that may be clouding my judgement. My sister is so obviously the favourite, and I receive nothing but criticism from my parents. Partly this is because my sister shores up her position by constantly briefing against me, twisting everything that I say to the most negative meaning, and lying about me when she can't do this. There is nothing I can do to stop this or to correct the falsehoods, because they are never openly stated. She is much more clever at that sort of thing than me.

Meanwhile, I have roughed for years it in horrible flats, sometimes without any heating or anything to eat. I have had to be really resilient to get through some horrible situations alone. I have also experienced anxiety for years, yet I don't get anything like the same support! A while back, I went through a divorce from a man whose behaviour was erratic at first, becoming violent later. Earning much less than my sister, I couldn't afford to pay my half of the mortgage on the house I owned with him while it was up for sale and live elsewhere. So I slept in my car for weeks until I met my DH who let me move in with him straight away. Most people would have been able to move in with parents for a while - I couldn't, because she was already there, her anxiety trumping every urgency of my own situation. In fact, my family responded by accusing me of having an affair (so untrue and so hurtful), and by offering my ex support. My sister even told him my plans and whereabouts, even though I had said that I didn't want him to be given this information and feared for my safety if it were handed over.

Anyway, I recently received a text from my sister asking me not to mention her housing situation because she found it upsetting when I did. I am afraid that under the influence of PMS I replied in a rather bad-tempered way. I said that I cared very much about her, but that I thought I had a right to mention it since it affected others as well as her. I went on to say that I genuinely didn't think that living at home was the best thing either for her or for my parents in the longer term, and that 10 years of shutting up on the subject hadn't achieved any change. She called me a drama queen, said I was lying about our parents' feelings, and told me that I was being unsupportive of her feelings and that I needed to back off. I replied that I thought she was old enough to see the moral side of the situation and to be able to stand on her own two feet rather than exploiting our parents. She asked who made me the sherriff!! I suppose I was a bit pompous.

BTW, I will probably be excommunicated from my family for some time for taking it this far.

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Wolfiefan · 07/01/2014 15:59

Wow! If your parents are fed up then they should tell her.
You sound very jealous of her.

struggling100 · 07/01/2014 16:01

Wolfiefan - I agree about my parents. I have tried to persuade them to tell her the things they tell me and my partner, but they won't.

I think I am a bit jealous! Despite the fact that I am more than old enough to know better, I find it hard sometimes not being the favourite.

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ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 07/01/2014 16:01

Do you get anything positive from your family at all? I would be tempted to take a step back from the whole lot of them. Your parents could tell your sister to leave or stop making her breakfast if they want. They have colluded in this situation so you don't need to fight their battles for them.

Look after yourself and leave them too it because sadly I don't think they are going to look after you.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 07/01/2014 16:02

leave them to it

Mumraathenoisylion · 07/01/2014 16:02

YABU, I think some distance and time from all of your family members while you sort out your issues with them would help.

What you went through was awful and I'm really sorry for what happened and that your family weren't supportive. I also understand why you are so annoyed.

FannyFifer · 07/01/2014 16:02

I would keep out of it.

It's not your concern and obviously your family has no concern about you so leave them all to it.

FruitSaladIsNotPudding · 07/01/2014 16:04

I think your sister and your parents sound like they deserve each other tbh.

The best thing you could do is distance yourself a bit from the lot of them - you sound as if you are trying to convince them the situation is untenable. It probably is, but logic has nothing to do with it.

If you can accept your family will not agree with you, and accept that you will not get their approval either, you would probably be happier. Have you considered counselling? It sounds like you have quite a bit to deal with.

Joysmum · 07/01/2014 16:05

This is up to your parents to express for themselves how they feel, rather than feeling indignant in their behalf.

4athomeand1cooking · 07/01/2014 16:05

My brother is also at home in his 30's. Although I have concerns for how much my parents do for him and also how this affects his own social life etc - it is ultimately none of my business and no amount of advice or voicing opinion wil make it so.

You have your own relationship with your parents that should not be transacted through your sister, if you feel they are unsupportive of you then you should approach that subject in it's own right, however by calling the favouritism card, you are only going to come up against opposition and offend all of them.

I know it is frustrating though.

CiderBomb · 07/01/2014 16:07

I don't have much to add expect that my brother is in a similar situation to your sister, almost identical actually. Has a very good job and a long term partner but absolutely no desire to leave the family home, it's nothing to with anxiety or illness in his case, he just likes having things done for him. He pays no rent and treats the house like a hotel.

Over the past year or so I've noticed my parents becoming ever so slightly irritated by him, my mum wouldn't hear a word against him before,but she's quite critical now and I think would actually like him to leave. She's offered to help him out financially and pointed out nice properties for sale in our area, but there's always an excuse as to why he can't take the plunge.

Short of actually chucking him out I don't know what they can do?

selfdestructivelady · 07/01/2014 16:07

Walk away.

struggling100 · 07/01/2014 16:07

Thank you all so much for your answers! I clearly need to back off and deal with my own issues here.

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ISeeYouShiverWithAntici · 07/01/2014 16:09

Tbh, id be saying to the parents look, if you arent willing to do anything about it, stop moaning to me because I dont want to hear it.

theres only so long you can listen to people who are totally unwilling to attempt to do anything at all about a situation they claim to be unhappy about.

NutcrackerFairy · 07/01/2014 16:11

struggling I actually think both your parents and sister sound toxic... particularly accusing you of having an affair, which was untrue, and then taking your ex's side. WTF? And letting you sleep in your car for weeks... did they realise you were homeless? If they did, that is pretty inexcusable tbh.

I agree with Chaz, maybe take a back seat from them all for a while and focus on the family you have with your DH.

YANBU to feel hurt and resentful but you can't force your parents or yous sis to change their behaviours and attitudes. Have you considered any counselling for yourself though, some support with your feelings of rejection and frustration might be very useful and as they say, the best revenge is to live well.

Braganza · 07/01/2014 16:14

YANBU to be jealous - it's a natural enough emotion in the circumstances. YWBU though to get involved - it's between your parents and her. While they may be reluctant to stand up to her, you're not going to force her out. Did they really tell you to sleep in your car rather than come home? If that's the case, then leave them to enjoy each other's company. They deserve it.

struggling100 · 07/01/2014 16:16

I think part of me truly believes that I would be able to have a relationship with my parents if she were not there, always mediating things and always representing me in a negative light. However, I realise that this is probably an illusion.

I will look into counselling.

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HumphreyCobbler · 07/01/2014 16:18

no wonder you are jealous

they all sound mean

riskit4abiskit · 07/01/2014 16:19

Well on the bright side, if your sis stays there forever she can take up the bulk of the caring duties for your parents when they are older and infirm.

Wolfiefan · 07/01/2014 16:21

I don't think this is all your problem! Can you see your parents away from the house? If they complain about her I'd refuse to listen and just tell them to tell it to her!
It's such a shame you feel unsupported by your parents. I hope you have other support.

sisterofmercy · 07/01/2014 16:30

You clearly love them despite everything but I also think you should step back. You've made it clear how you feel (which was brave) and as they don't agree and they are all adults; I don't think there is anything else you can do. It's your parents' choice to indulge your sister at your seeming expense.

If the situation is causing you massive mental and emotional discomfort (as it sounds from reading this) then I suggest you think about protecting and nurturing yourself. You could get counselling or read about other people's experience of similar situations where parents show naked favouritism. There are quite a few threads on here that could help you. You are by no means alone in your suffering; I wish none of you had to feel this way.

At least you have proved you are tough and can make a life for yourself. You also sound quite decent, self-aware, prepared to admit your emotions might get in the way and open to ideas. In a funny-peculiar way you might have benefited most from this arrangement!

DaveBussell · 07/01/2014 16:32

It's kind of you to be concerned about your parent's wellbeing when they've shown so little for yours. You deserve a lot better.

Agree with the others - back away and get some counselling to begin to extricate yourself from all these mixed-up feelings.

struggling100 · 07/01/2014 16:35

I recently lost my job (not my fault I hasten to add) and found out that I am unlikely to be able to have children at the same time. I am alone a lot at home, and a lot of really silly angry feelings have come up! Thank you all for being so kind - hearing the truth is never easy, but I needed it!

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coco44 · 07/01/2014 16:37

Your parents wouldn't do such much for her if they didn't want to.
You are clearly very jealous and I suspect that is the only reason they have told you they are fed up with the situation.

struggling100 · 07/01/2014 16:43

Coco44 - I hadn't even considered that as a possibility. I don't think my parents realise how I feel, but it's possible that they do. They do seem genuinely unhappy about things, but as others have said - they would put their foot down if they really wanted to.

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HumphreyCobbler · 07/01/2014 16:48

These people let you sleep in a car and sided with your ex against you. I think you owe them nothing.

Put yourself first and realise that the negative feelings and jealousy are not your fault, rather they are caused by your family's behaviour to you.