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AIBU to think its Plain old sexism on many women's Part

79 replies

Sadoldbag · 06/01/2014 20:44

Sick to death or reading threads and hearing from oh who is a nurse say such and such asked for a female nurse because they feel more at ease with a woman looking at there fanjo only for a male doctor to walk in and look at there fanjo

Am I right to feel this is plain old Conspiracy of professionalism

If you don't want a male nurse fair play but what about the male paramedic, doctor , Anesthesiologist and male scrub nurse in the theatre who will see your bloody fanjo ffs

Also oh informs me about 80% gynecologists are male my oh works in a hospital were none of the gynecologists are female

So I really can't understand why you would let a male doctor see your fanjo but not a male nurse

Or have I gone mad

OP posts:
Tinkertaylor1 · 06/01/2014 23:35

My fanny my choice !

Tinkertaylor1 · 06/01/2014 23:38

And to be honest the female consultants I've seen have been fare more gentle - the make one I had seemed he was reaching about for his keys up my flute, it was horrible and neatly brought me to tears.

DaddyPigsMistress · 06/01/2014 23:44

Everyone should have the right to see whoever makes them at ease

My 89 year old grandfather will only see the female doctors at his clinic. He feels very uncomfortable talking about his health with males. His father was very cruel and dismissive, he would tell him off as a child for showing pain and scoffed at them needing any medical help .

He feels he would be told to man up or stop exaggerating by male GP's and would minimise his pain so they didn't think him weak and silly.

People have their reasons, who are we to judge

RedToothBrush · 06/01/2014 23:59

If you'd been abused or raped do you think you would voicing on the preference based on sexism or because of your experiences and how that had affected you?

You are not only being hideously unreasonable, you also lack any empathy or understanding about why women might state a preference.

Insensitive and ignorant.

Learn some empathy, take a step off your high horse and realise that not everyone has had a perfect life and may well have a reasonable request to not want a male/female doctor or nurse.

Defnotsupergirl · 07/01/2014 00:11

As a female I suppose I'm unusual in that I like to be seen by males.they tend not to make a fuss and just get on with things - females are almost too nice if that makes any sense........ The only time I've been asked if I would prefer to see a female was for a back passage internal by my GP. I assured him that I had no problem with him proceeding. Funnily enough, in all other aspects of my life I hate being touched except by DH......

hoppinghare · 07/01/2014 00:16

I am extremely uncomfortable with anyone examining me there, particularly since the damage my first birth caused to the area. I am very embarassed by it. I would much rather have a female nurse and doctor. If offered a choice I would always ask for female. I don't really know why. I guess I suppose a fellow woman would have more understanding and compassion whereas a man might think 'look at the state of this.

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 07/01/2014 00:23

YABU - it's not "plain old sexism" - this can be a very sensitive thing to women. As I'm sure it can be for men,too.

Remember the age old joke about young men trying to buy condoms and there's a young woman at the till? And they come out with a tube of toothpaste? It's like that, only more serious.

bochead · 07/01/2014 09:42

My Dad preferred the GP at the practice of the same ethnicity. If he'd had problems downstairs he would deffo rather have seen a male. My 9 year old has preferred to see a strange male rather than a strange women for any issues with his private parts since he was about 5. I'm a single parent and female, but have problems at all with the fact that DS prefers to direct certain queries to my male best friend.

Some people are just more naturally modest than others, it's how they are made and they shouldn't be criticised for that. Most HCP's are effectively strangers.

I don't think it's just women who prefer same sex HCP's for intimate exams and procedures. I think it's human nature. Until VERY recently in human history men were not allowed anywhere near a birthing chamber.

bochead · 07/01/2014 09:43

ps I always feel sorry for male partners who do NOT want to witness the whole birth experience and feel that often a woman is better off with a female relative as a birthing partner than a reluctant hubby.

struggling100 · 07/01/2014 09:47

YABU. Plenty of women ask to see female GPs too.

In a world where domestic violence, rape, and sexual assaults against women are still overwhelmingly more common than similar crimes against men, some women feel more comfortable with female medical professionals.

The arrogance of some male doctors does not help the situation.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 07/01/2014 10:03

80% of gynes are men and it's women being sexist to men is the problem?

Right then.

HesterShaw · 07/01/2014 10:07

Our initial consultant at the fertility clinic was man. He made me feel very uncomfortable - was very brusque and never once made eye contact or addressed us by name. Why would I feel ok with him peering up my nether regions? The nurse sensed I didn't feel ok with him thankfully and asked if I'd like to change to the female consultant.

KeemaNaanAndCurryOn · 07/01/2014 10:15

People have choice.

My Dad refused to see a female doctor for his prostate as he was acutely embarrassed.

I prefer to see a woman for a smear, but I had a male midwife for my first born.

It’s not sexist, its choice.

Your DH needs to read up on male privilege. How dare a woman express an opinion. How dare a woman be stuck with a male gynae whether she likes it or not as most of them are men.

DIYapprentice · 07/01/2014 10:15

Why? I would think it's because in hospital you bond more with your nurse, and with the consultant/dr it's a bit more removed.

And actually, what a nurse does is more intimate. A consultant may examine you briefly, but the nurse will be washing you, checking frequently, monitoring you all for any sign that something is wrong. They touch you for longer, more times, and are just always.... there. The consultant goes away and you don't have to see them again for awhile, so could ignore any embarrassment. The nurse is always there so if you felt embarrassed you would remain feeling embarrassed the whole time.

RunRunRuby · 07/01/2014 10:20

On a practical note, there are presumably both male and female nurses on the ward at all times, so whilst it is inconvenient to swap nurses, it is possible. Whereas if your consultant is a male, there may not be a female one available, you could be waiting for a day or more as different doctors are only in on certain days. For me personally I couldn't care less who sees anything anymore, I've had major bowel surgery under an almost entirely male team.

LouiseSmith · 07/01/2014 10:22

I prefer females on a whole. I have seen my male dr for various problems, but a female for anything sensitive it's a personal choice.

Not sexism at all. I think UABVU to think that it is and I fail to see how another woman's design about who she allows to view her 'lady parts' is your concern.

HedgehogsRevenge · 07/01/2014 10:23

How many women are we talking about here OP. Are you trying to say that all your dh's patients who refuse intimate exams with a male nurse go on to allow a male doctor to examine them? Or was this a one off and you're massively generalising?
And really your OH shouldn't be discussing his patients with you. When you say 'such and such', is he actually using patient names? because that's a sackable offense.

YoureBeingASillyBilly · 07/01/2014 10:25

Maybe if all women insist on having a male gynae the we'll get some wy to to tackling this issue of male domination of the medical profession and thats a good thing.

GatoradeMeBitch · 07/01/2014 10:26

I'll give you my ex's address OP, you can go round and slap him for requesting a male doctor to do his prostate exam...

YoureBeingASillyBilly · 07/01/2014 10:26

Insist on having a female gynae

eurochick · 07/01/2014 10:28

It doesn't bother me from an embarrassment point of view, but over the last year I've had 4 embryo transfers performed at the same IVF clinic. Who does it is pot luck based on whatever day your embryos are ready. The first 3 were done by men and were ok but fairly uncomfortable (particularly the one where the gynae decided to rotate the speculum without unscrewing it first Confused). The 4th was done by a women and I hardly felt a thing - so much better! So on that basis if there were a choice, I would request her again.

SaucyJack · 07/01/2014 10:29

I'd prefer a female any day of the century.

I find women are so much more matter of fact about it (and I'd imagine it was the same for male HCPs when treating men), and quite frankly the whole ordeal is bad enough without some nervous bloke making it worse.

summersblue · 07/01/2014 10:45

If you don't want a male nurse fair play but what about the male paramedic, doctor , Anesthesiologist and male scrub nurse in the theatre who will see your bloody fanjo ffs

What about them?

The answer is simple in any case. My fanny, my choice.

YoureBeingASillyBilly · 07/01/2014 10:48

Btw- you can insist on a female only theatre staff if going for c-section or gynae surgery.

YoureBeingASillyBilly · 07/01/2014 10:50

And yes its a faff for the hospital which is all the more reason we should insist if its what we want and maybe then they'll be forced to employ a greater perentage of femal staff over all roles and have a knock on effect on women entering those professions.