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To buy this land and risk upsetting the tenants next door

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Mrsdavidcaruso · 04/01/2014 12:31

Long story short. My house is at the back of a large house which was converted into flats last year. I own the freehold to my property and have had problems with the tenants of the flats parking on what is actually my land. It got bad when the LL of the large house 'rented' a part of my property to one of his tenants as an extra parking space and it took a long time and solicitors letters to get it all sorted.

I also had to spend money on getting bollards and a fence to ensure no-one parked on my property.

My property is at the end of a T shape and I part is used as a passage to my house ( I have legal access over it) and a parking area for 5 cars rented by the LL to his tenants

However because of all the problems my solicitor has done some digging to ensure my legal right of way and that nothing comes back to bite me on the bum with the owners of the large house.

It then got interesting - it seems that the LL bought the large house at auction on a 99 year lease. My Solicitor saw the legal pack and there was no mention of the land on the paperwork.

He has now found out through the freeholder that the land does not actually belong to the large house but to the house next door.

The freeholder of the house next door has confirmed yes its his land but as he does not live in the house was unaware that the LL of the large house was using it as far as he was aware only I had access to it.

He has now contacted my Solicitors and offered to sell me the land, If I don’t want to buy he is going to offer the LL the chance to lease it from him but if he does that I am worried about my own access across it.

I am very tempted I can enlarge my garden and my husband (who rents a garage ) can also park his car on the property we can afford it and it may increase the value of my house and provide a safer environment for my DS and bump when he/she arrives.

But that is not going to sit well with the tenants of the large house and I can forsee huge problems with them as a couple were very abusive to me during the problem with the parking before.

I have a couple of weeks to decide. I know it would not fair to the tenants but its something they will have to take up with their LL as either he has been badly advised/mistaken or is chancing his arm renting out parking spaces when he knows its not his land (I suspect the latter).

According to my Solicitor there would be no legal or planning issues if I wanted to change the area to a larger garden (although I will check with the council myself)

So would I be UR to buy it

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AntlersInAllOfMyDecorating · 14/01/2014 19:54

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sykadelic15 · 14/01/2014 20:02

Fantastic news! Looking forward to hearing updates once the LL and tenants know!

helenthemadex · 14/01/2014 20:04

I would love to be a fly on the wall when the LL and tenants find out, hope you feel better soon

Mrsdavidcaruso · 14/01/2014 20:16

Antler their bins are kept at the other side of the large house so they will not be affected - its just that I have to pull my bins out to the kerb an thats through the land

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blahe · 14/01/2014 20:36

Has there been a map of the layout?

onedev · 14/01/2014 20:48

Well done - yay! Grin

TimeToPassGo · 14/01/2014 20:49

Limited thanks for that link. Wonder how it all ended!

Blueuggboots · 14/01/2014 21:02

Well done! Will be following the thread closely to see how it all goes.
Hope your ms ends soon!!

mistlethrush · 14/01/2014 21:23

If their bins are on the other side of the house, can they park that side too??? Wink

coco44 · 14/01/2014 21:40

It can be done much quicker for cash buyers because if the searches turn anything up, then it is only the buyer who suffers as there is no motgage lender.
Several years ago A group of neighbours clubbed together to buy a house , when they gor wind that it was going to be bought and turned into a group home for people with learning difficulties.That went through within hours

Bonzodoodah · 14/01/2014 22:07

Oh fabulous you! Well done making your life better. Would LOVE to see LL's face when he reads the letter!!

Mrsdavidcaruso · 14/01/2014 22:31

mistlethrush no - its just a small side garden no parking space

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mistlethrush · 14/01/2014 22:50

Is there a road near there or do they bring the bins out to the same bit of road that you park near anyway?

FannyFifer · 15/01/2014 09:57

Neighbours bought a house to stop it becoming a group home for folks with Learning disabilities?
That is pretty fucking disgusting.

FeelingGrinchy · 15/01/2014 10:14

I agree Fanny, I had the same thought. Sad

FannyFifer · 15/01/2014 10:59

We have a group home directly across from my house and another one in the street behind us.

Don't understand why it would be an issue for anyone.

GatoradeMeBitch · 15/01/2014 11:17

placemarking for the (hopefully not too bad) fall out!

Rooners · 15/01/2014 11:28

That's really awful. We have a house next door for people who have been sectioned and are now trying to rehabilitate into normal life.

We have rarely had any issues with them at all. It is staffed 24/7. No one ever kicks off. Most of them are up to their eyeballs on antipsychotics anyway I think Sad

It's fine. I was initially worried about it when we moved in. There was no need. And people with LDs are a different thing entirely, and imo far less likely to cause an issue.

Some people are just very very snobbish, very scared of anything they don't understand.

Lj8893 · 15/01/2014 11:40

coco did I just read that right????

HSMMaCM · 15/01/2014 12:42

I think coco was just demonstrating how quickly it can be done.

MarvellousMechanicalMouseOrgan · 15/01/2014 13:00

I remember your previous thread too. Perhaps an added bonus of all this is that maybe the tenants will be so pissed off with their new situation that they might actually move?

They do seem to be weirdly loyal to their LL, if I found out that I'd been duped like they have (even though they're rude bastards) I'd have been off.

JennySense · 15/01/2014 13:18

Good luck with getting it all finalised.

FeelingGrinchy · 15/01/2014 13:24

HSMM, I know that's what coco was trying to demonstrate; unfortunately, in order to demonstrate it, she chose a startling example of small-minded prejudice in action.

I don't want to derail this fabulous thread as I am 100% behind the OP, but for coco to mention that anecdote in the casual way she did is disturbing - odd at best.

Blatherskite · 15/01/2014 16:12

I'm really hoping they leave you to your land without fuss OP

coco44 · 16/01/2014 09:08

How is it 'odd' to demonatrate how quickly a property putchase can be completed? It doesn't happen much in normal housebuying, so examples are likely to be extreme!
It does sadly happen not infrequently in situations like this, and that is why now there are exemption from publicising planning applications (for change of use) in circumstances like this. The public don't know until it is too late for them to jump in and buy!

Some people are just very very snobbish, very scared of anything they don't understand.

.. more likely worried about the effect on the value of their home.

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