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Regarding dieting

189 replies

Climbingthewalls12 · 02/01/2014 19:53

Just watching that Channel 4 program about people who used to be fat, then thin then fat again and its got me thinking.

AIBU tonot see how people can claiming dieting and exercise don't work Hmm and to say that of course they bloody do if you stick to it and do it properly. As someone who has previously lost a great deal of weight this way it really grates on me that people use it as an excuse.

I know there can be medical issues but the general reality is that people don't do it properly!

OP posts:
IceBeing · 03/01/2014 19:22

sleep nothing I can put my finger on...I was resurfacing from the depths of PND though...so it is possible that I managed to get a 'you really do deserve to be miserable everyday and go to bed feeling hungry' vibe going. But I would hardly recommend that to anyone else.

I think I had previously felt that losing weight was about appearances. This time I really believed it was for my health...so I would stand a better chance of being at my DD's wedding etc.... Hence becoming a little stuck once my BMI became 'healthy'.

Oh and I definitely haven't solved the underlying reasons I got fat in the first place. I still binge eat every time I get off the phone with my family (they are lovely but my Mum has metastatic cancer and apparently some important parts of my brain think that you can cure cancer in others by eating chocolate yourself). So my body still associates food with comfort/love/happiness to an unhealthy degree.

MadAsFish · 03/01/2014 19:23

Actually no, a couple of generations ago, many post-menopausal women were dead. If you have no effective means of contraception, your body is worn out childbearing, and you die earlier.

ServicePlease · 03/01/2014 19:45

Thanks Sleep Smile

I won't mention getting properly stuck in a dress in a changing room earlier. I was not looking beautiful and in control then whilst swearing and nearly cried BlushGrin

Sleepwhenidie · 03/01/2014 19:49

Happens to the best of us service....but why is it always in the really expensive shop/dress rather than Primark Confused?

Ice Flowers - sorry about your mum. Am going to PM re the binges.

ServicePlease · 03/01/2014 20:02

A primark dress would have ripped at the seams. This one sadly was made of sterner stuff. It was strapless so needed some rigidity, but fuck me, I was properly scared I would only get out by doing some walk of shame into a busy shop Blush

MarshaBrady · 03/01/2014 20:23

That happened to me in Liberty once Service. Had to get the sa.

Borntorun25 · 03/01/2014 20:41

Got stuck in my wedding dress, tried it on again at home a few years post wedding and couldn't get it off again. Then postie knocked door with a parcel to sign for Blush. I hid and pretended I was out!

Communal changing rooms were normal in my teens/twenties and were a special kind of humiliating hell!

Also wanted to say that regular exercise has been the turning point for my weight control, and although I am hungry after a run my appetite has changed and I really do prefer banana to chocolate most of the time. If I don't exercise old cravings do return though. I have accepted that I have had to make lifelong changes to my eating, it was not easy and took me many years but I feel so much better now that when I do relapse a bit I am motivated to rein myself in again.

MarshaBrady · 03/01/2014 21:13

Lol Born did you have to wait until someone got home to help?

I look at photos in 20s and remember how much of anything I used to eat. Crisps, beer, pasta and chocolate after every meal. Still slim. Did exercise on and off. No way could I do that now.

I wonder if it's more that I've had dc over age.

JapaneseMargaret · 03/01/2014 21:25

Right.

A couple of generations ago, post-menopausal women were either fat or dead.

Hmm
Borntorun25 · 03/01/2014 21:38

Hi Marsha, almost had to wait for DH, he would have pissed himself laughing, he did anyway when I finally confessed! It took me about an hour but managed to wriggle out eventually by carefully tearing down the edge of the zip, have never sewn it back up, not planning to use it again any time soon Grin.

I'm the other way, look at photos of me in 20s/30s and cringe, never want to go back there. Have never been able to eat without consequence (sigh). At least you can enjoy the memory Wink.

MarshaBrady · 03/01/2014 21:42

I'm low carb now. It's the only way I can simulate the same freedom with out blow up consequences.

I nearly bought some rain boots I could not get off, but reconsidered, waiting for dh all day in wellies not a good idea.

Borntorun25 · 03/01/2014 21:47

No zips to rip out either, you would be truly stuck!! Grin

MarshaBrady · 03/01/2014 21:52

Grin Non- breathable plastic caked in mud - insanity!

BIWI · 03/01/2014 21:57

When you're younger, your metabolism is different. It's much easier to remain slim whilst eating all manner of rubbishy foods.

But this changes as you get older. And, it's usually the case that we become more sedentary. We don't get 'playtime' where we run around for 20 minutes twice a day every day!

However, on top of all this is the fact that our diets have changed significantly over the last 30 or so years.

Anyone who knows me will realise that I am now going to bore for Britain about low carb Grin

But. Think about it. Think about your local high street. How many of the shop units there comprise food outlets? How often these days do we expect to have a take away/eat out/buy snacks during the day?

30 years or so ago it would all have been very different. There might have been a fish and chip shop, and the odd cafe (very much a 'greasy spoon' type of place). But apart from that, there would have been very few places where you would have gone to buy takeaway food. Food would have been consumed almost entirely at home, or at the workplace, in the works cafeteria. We would have eaten 3 'square' meals a day, and wouldn't be snacking during meals.

Anyone who is the same age as me (I'm now 54) would also remember that drinking fizzy drinks was a real rarity - we used to wait for the Corona lorry to come round - and buying one, one litre bottle of orangeade was a real treat that maybe happened once a week, if we were lucky.

There also wasn't a diet food industry. Low fat foods just didn't exist.

And then, in the 1980s, it was decided that fat was the problem, and we were all advised to eat low fat foods. Low fat foods became a massive growth area for manufacturers. And guess what? Obesity levels have soared ever since.

So. We are now in a position where we are all trying very hard to eat low fat foods. But low fat foods use a lot of sugar (i.e. carbs) to make them palatable.

We also eat out and eat on the go much more often. Most of what you will eat these days (any coffee shop, cafe, food concession) will be heavy on the carbs. If you're eating lots of carbs this will also mean that you end up being hungry a lot during the day, which means you will want to snack at around 11 and 3/4pm, so you'll be eating even more carbs. But don't worry, because what you're eating (mostly, isn't it?) is low fat.

But it's all still high in carbs. And, worse, if you're not trying to eat low fat, it will be high in fat and high in carbs. Which is a complete recipe for disaster. And it's a vicious circle. Eat carbs - get hungry - eat more carbs - get hungry - eat carbs ...

Carbs are the problem. Cut out the sugar. Reduce the amount of sugar, potatoes, pasta and rice you're eating, and go back to traditional meals of meat and two veg. Stop drinking fizzy drinks and eating chocolate/sugary snacks. Take more exercise if you can. All of this will also mean that you're not as hungry, so you will be eating less.

And also accept/recognise that with age it does get more difficult, because your metabolism slows down.

I am now 54. I embraced low carbing properly (having flirted with it for a while) a couple of years ago, and lost two stones. I now wear size 8-10 clothes, and have maintained this weight for a year. (Christmas bad behaviour not withstanding Blush)

If you want to know more/join in, the next low carb Bootcamp starts on 13 January.

TalkinPeace · 03/01/2014 22:05

BIWI and I occupy diffferent soap boxes but hers is great - because it works for different people

luffs BIWI cos we sing from the same songsheet

BIWI · 03/01/2014 22:20
Grin
MPB · 03/01/2014 22:29

OP I lost 1.5stone 10 years ago. Aged 24 God it was so easy compared to now. And I couldn't understand why people didn't join weightwatchers like I had.

I am now 3.5stone overweight now classified as obese. In those 10 years I've had two kids - I got back to half a stone over weight with the first. However, with the second we hit rough times, I had a 10lb baby by c section, felt depressed (still do) lost my job, and found out I have hypothyroidism.

I absolutely know what I need to do. I'm not stupid. I just need to develop the courage and belief in myself that I can lose weight.

I use food as a coping method when I'm stressed/ down. I know I shouldn't. But my relationship with food is completely shit. Partly to do with the last 10 years, but also to do with my childhood.

Your OP stating that it just takes diet and exercise is not news to me.

I think there are some people who don't know what they are doing to themselves, there are those who don't care and then there are those like me who care more deeply than you'd ever imagine and are just trapped in an emotional cycle of binge eating.

I just cannot pluck up the courage to go to the GP to get help Hmm

I'm off to WW tomorrow am though.

TalkinPeace · 03/01/2014 22:34

MPB
When I got married 20 years ago I was a size 14/16 .... to have my wedding dress adjusted to fit for my anniversary this summer would have involved reducing the waist by over six inches ....
its not age
its willpower
I did not see the problem till my knee joints gave out in my 30's
the threat of major surgery keeps me focussed

MPB · 03/01/2014 23:36

But I don't think it's my age.

It is what has happened time in the last ten years which has meant that I've put on weight.

It will be coming off this year.

Ladyglamalot · 03/01/2014 23:45

I wonder if there is a bunch of men on dadsnet fretting about xmas weightHmm?

Borntorun25 · 03/01/2014 23:58

MTB I sympathise deeply. I recognise much of what you have said in myself, particularly eating in response to stress/ depression. I had always been overweight since teens and had a very unhealthy relationship with food.
I started exercising in response to several major stresses occurring, I wasn't coping and was showing signs of depression. I started running and basically ran my rage and anguish out. It wasn't exactly Forrest Gump as I could barely run 20 yards to start with but I ran/walked for 20-30 mins most days and it really cleared my head. I felt much calmer and able to cope with most of the shit. Weight loss was an unplanned but very welcome side effect. 8 years on I am running miles and loving it. I do still feel my mood dipping ( and waist expanding) if I miss a week though.
I know this is not a magic solution and not for everyone but it really, really helped me.

I don't have problems with hypothyroidism or childhood traumas though. Please do pluck up the courage to see your GP about these. Would you consider counselling or psychology? Can be really helpful at understanding behavioural responses and finding strategies to deal with these. Sorry if you've been down this path before.

And good luck with WW this year Smile

Borntorun25 · 04/01/2014 00:00

Sorry, MPB Blush

MadAsFish · 04/01/2014 00:29

A couple of generations ago, post-menopausal women were either fat or dead.

No, didn't say that.

And low-carbing does not work for me at all. Works brilliantly for my husband and my sister, though.

Darkesteyes · 04/01/2014 00:54

OP i noticed the listings in my tv giude the night the programme was on (2nd Jan) it was part of a whole set of programmes on channel 5s fat shaming night.
I did Slimming world in 2002 and lost 10 stone. Back then i lost a stone a month.
12 years later and 12 yrs older i have nowhere near 10 stone to lose.
But ii now takes me 3 months to lose a stone WITH excsesise I didnt excersise the first time.

MPB · 04/01/2014 01:04

Thanks Borntorun.

I think I do need to go to G.P.