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big NY family row who is at fault me or DB

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NYfamilybustup · 01/01/2014 20:23

Namechanged in case someone recognises me.

Background: my mum died just before Christmas, she wasn't a great mum my DB hadn't spoken to her for 3 years due to things she said about SIL. I had cut contact with her for 5 years however a few months ago she asked for a second chance which I gave to her, she broke her promises so I stopped speaking to her.
I haven't been that upset by my mum's death, I think it is because I had come to terms with never seeing her again. My DB is more upset and I think he was hoping for some sort of big reunion.

So I had plans to go to PILs for NYE but my brother asked me if I would go to him. I said okay though I didn't really want to because they live an hour away and I need to come back and look after the cat before the fireworks. So I said sure but DH and the DCs were still going to PILs. DB said he wasn't sure now. Then MIL said that DB and family could come to theirs if they liked. DB said he would like to come.

So last night DB, SIL and DNs turn up at PILs and the first thing SIL said was your house is huge are you scamming the system. MIL laughed it off and just explained that they bought the house and developed it over 10 years. SIL then had a drink and sat by the food and didn't talk to anyone.

DB marched in sat in a comfy chair and ignored everyone who tried to talk to him. I asked him what was wrong and he said he didn't like the dog wandering around. So PILs put the dog in the conservatory, DB didn't improve. I went to talk to him again with a drink and some food and he said that he was bored then he got up and wandered around still ignoring anyone who spoke to him.

I went home to care for the cat and I put my youngest to bed. Then DH came home and said DB was following him and he had just kicked off at the party because the dog was by himself and there were fireworks (the dog is deaf and couldn't hear them so didn't care) and he ended up making MIL cry, then he asked DH if he could come and say happy NY before he went home. I got my other DC ready for bed because he took ages to get to us.

When I came downstairs he slammed through the door shouting that I hadn't told him I was leaving (I had many times) he said I was horrid and turning into our mum. He then started pushing DH, DH kept telling him to stop and he wouldn't so in the end DH (who wasn't really sober) pushed him back and DB fell over. He started shouting about the police and shouting to the DCs that their dad would be locked up. I begged him to stop and just go home and he pinned me to the wall shouting at me. DH pulled him off and dragged him outside.

This morning DB came around and said he was sorry about all that had happened but it was my fault really because I made him feel stupid because I kept talking to him in the party and he hadn't wanted to go anyway. I told him that I had asked him what he wanted too do and anyway it doesn't justify his reaction. He blamed it on grief and said I should understand but I don't and it upsets him. Then he just walked out.

So who is being unreasonable ,should I just forget what he did because he is so upset and I am not caring enough or should I still be annoyed at him for his behaviour.

OP posts:
Pixieonline · 02/01/2014 06:15

Your brother is ill. He needs help to deal with the relationship he had with your mother and his grief. He's asking for the unconditional love and support which he did not get from mom from you. He is testing every boundary with you as if you are the parent and he is the child.
Sit him down and tell him that you will always love and support him but you will not accept this behaviour. Ever. Tell him he can talk through his feelings with you and suggest grief counselling.

Do not ever allow him to behave this way again and tell him that as he is a grown man, he will have to save put the consequences of his actions as a grown up. If he ever assaults you again you will call the police.

Pixieonline · 02/01/2014 06:16

^...... have to accept the consequences.....

HECTheHeraldAngelsSing · 02/01/2014 07:14

Did your mum successfully use histrionics to control people?
Maybe thats what he is copying.
I see it as cynically manipulative behaviour. Maybe tell him to get help or stay away?

winkywinkola · 02/01/2014 07:44

I definitely wouldn't let him see my dcs. What if he kicked off again and again? Why should they be exposed to that?

Faverolles · 02/01/2014 08:00

How can the op not allow him to behave like this - he's not a child.
He's not going to change until he recognises there is a problem himself.
I suggest you tell him you want nothing to do with him until he acknowledges his behaviour and gets help.
You are not responsible for him!

ShoeSmacking · 02/01/2014 08:02

What worries me hereis your thread title. Clearly on some level you have bought into his accusations that you are at fault. You are not.

I agree with earlier posters that said you need to set very clear boundaries for him. He obviously also needs help coping with issues to do with his unresolved relationship with your mum. If you can get him to see a therapist, I think that would be helpful.

In the meantime, don't let his behaviour make you think you have done anything wrong. You clearly haven't.

fortyplus · 02/01/2014 08:08

Your brother's behaviour is unacceptable on so many levels, but he has attempted an apology, albeit a clumsy one.

I would be trying to understand his mh issues and encourage him to seek help, not cut him off.

StanleyLambchop · 02/01/2014 08:10

The first thing SIL said was your house is huge are you scamming the system.

I could not get past that, actually. WTAF? A guest in someone's house and you say that? Your SIL is bonkers. I would leave them both to it, luckily your MIL was so understanding!

hackmum · 02/01/2014 08:43

Felt very sad reading this - it must have been horrible for you, OP.

Had your DB and SIL met your PILs before? Just asking out of nosiness, because that is exceptionally rude behaviour in the house of someone you don't know (though only slightly more forgivable if they're old friends).

melika · 02/01/2014 08:50

That's not grief that is being a prize asshole, sorry but avoid him.

diddlediddledumpling · 02/01/2014 09:02

I am with pixie, your brother needs counselling. It's clear that you love him and it pains you to see him suffering. And while I agree that grief doesn't excuse his behaviour, I my opinion it does explain it. I don't agree with posters saying go to the police or stop contact with him. Grief can do terrible things to people, and it's really very early days.
Was alcohol involved on NY eve? If so, he should stop drinking for a start and see his GP about bereavement counselling.

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