To point out yet again to the geographically challenged of Britain....

[AnnabelleLee]

THAT northern Ireland is in the UK. Ireland is an entirely separate country. Like,properly different,with its own currency and culture and laws and all that.
FFS.

Northern Ireland is part of Britain though right as well as the UK? Even though it's not part of the island that is Great Britain? Hence usage of term 'British' to describe inhabitants (where they wish to he described such). Or have I got that wrong?!

Also technically you are Irish if from NI (ie from island it Ireland!) even if your political affiliation is otherwise? Similarly is technically correct to say from
ulster. (I recognise the sensitivity of using such descriptions however...)

I've confused myself now

No, it's part of the UK with Great Britain (England, Wales, Scotland)...technically.

I would agree with you that in a colloquial (sp?) sense it is part of Britain (which technically would even be only Wales and England, if Great is not mentioned, I think?)

Yeah I thought I read something before that said the term 'Britain' without the 'great' has come to mean the countries in the UK. But I may have imagined it.

...Similarly is technically correct to say from
ulster. (I recognise the sensitivity of using such descriptions however...)...

^^ I agree, but that's what makes human social interaction so complex and ever chaning in context.

Important is to know the differences

Yeah Wikipedia says 'Britain' is used synonymously with UK whereas GB means the island. That must be where I got it.

Yes, nugget I would also say so.

I mentioned earlier that I as a non-Brit like the use of Britain and British as something very all-encompassing and very integrative.

But some or many British do not necessarily feel that way for various reasons.
Of course it is a socio-political matter.

By the way, Wikipedia is NOT an official encoclypedia...

It's worth opening a thread about the wiki thing. Look up stuff who have absolutely great knowledge, if not expert knowledge,....you will be shocked how much wrong info is in there...

Always take wikipedia with a grain of salt or even more than a grain

But that was off topic

I actually meant to add a disclaimer to my post saying exactly that world I'd acknowledging Wikipedia is hardly am entirely reliable source . Useful for a lot of things is basic facts about celebs and films though.

One of the papers did a thing a while back where they got experts to review pages about historical events and personages and to comment on discrepancies it was very interesting.

Dizzy, do you really need it spelling out to you?

Yep dizzy you just proved my point again...thank you

My grandpa used to say he was from Southern Ireland (Cork).

My father wouldn't object to that either staggeringon. but then he was born there a very long time ago and is no longer available for consultation . He would have said Ireland was for the Irish though.

Oo-er, I posted without reading the thread. Might have to rewind

I think the county is legally referred to as Derry/ Londonderry, but the city is legally known as Derry.
I may be wrong though.
Such an interesting thread. I'm from 'the South', but have lived in 'the North' for nearly 20 years. I'm sure I've been getting everything arseways!

Just noticed that I missed the last page....doh!