To point out yet again to the geographically challenged of Britain....

[AnnabelleLee]

THAT northern Ireland is in the UK. Ireland is an entirely separate country. Like,properly different,with its own currency and culture and laws and all that.
FFS.

I'm loving the refusal of you lot to start throwing buns.

^^^hahaha

I am a protestant from NI. I have no issue at all being referred to as Northern Irish. In fact it would be my nationality of choice just as someone from Scotland would be Scottish.

And also worldcitizen I have never ever referred to being from Ulster. I'm from Northern Ireland, it is what it is.

Hey hippo it's wonderful to hear from people here about the non-issue or even in your case not referring to it as Ulster etc.
Possibly the result of changing times, really?!

Am I alone in being more than slightly gobsmacked that Michael Schumacher's accident came consistently higher up today and yesterday's headlines than the NI negotiations? I know 'no consensus' isn't actually much of a story, but it's an attempt to stave off political chaos in part of the UK, for God's sake! Doesn't it trump 'racing driver has ski accident' in terms of importance?

No. Celebrities virtually always come first in terms of news.

Hey wevet I can imagine that question is a great thread on its own...so scary how much the masses are not able or willing to comprehend and care about socio-political issues. Not even the ones with possible high relevance to theor own lives.

Okay, maybe the Daily Mail immigrants are destroying Britain stories....

Erk, using Ulster as a synonym for Northern Ireland drives me potty. It's NOT the same thing, ffs.

I wouldn't refer to myself as being from Ulster, certainly wouldn't use it as another way of saying N Ireland, seeing as it's not NI. But then again there's nothing incorrect about me saying I'm from Ulster, just as another poster said that they're from Munster. I would know what I mean by it, but there's no guarantee that whoever I'm talking to would know ehat I mean by it...

My grandpa used to say he was from Southern Ireland (Cork). I presume this is beyond the pale.

There are counties in Ulster that are not in NI.

My friend is a NI Protestant, Loyalist family. Yet she calls herself Irish.

Stepdad is Catholic, he calls himself Irish, he's from Derry.

The Irish rugby team takes players from all counties...not that sport is any indication of a nation.

"Ulster Unionist Party"

Seems that even some of the locals have traditionally been a bit careless..

I'm all about the human race thing. I was called p*ki at school (I'm white) and have been asked 'but where are your parents from?' thousands of times. I consequently feel little affinity with the particular country I was born in, and I'm probably rare in that I don't care who calls it what (within polite reason). I just wish we could sort of do away with it all and just enjoy our little earth but I know that'll never happen

God I really haven't drunk enough tonight...

"Worra, an American lady came into a shop I worked in once and said 'oh, you've been to London - you know Karen?'"

My (American but fuck knows which part he is from) told me near enough all Americans are like this.

That should say neighbour. My American neighbour. I do not own/have not captured any americans or anything.

And (if it hasn't already been covered elsewhere on the thread) it would also be highly educational to explain the precise ramifications of the name/s Derry-Londonderry, if someone (other than me) has the patience, now that someone up the thread mentioned it.

Which would probably be dismissed by some of the more ignorant on the other, now deleted, NI thread as yet more juvenile dwelling on the superficial at the expense of 'moving on', but which is of course far more complicated than that.

Hey wevet is it correct that the city council refers to themselves as 'Derry'? I am going to look it up myself, will see what I'll find.

No, I think it's a good point and very important.

The 'move on' and 'get over it' expressions have got to be THE most uneducated moronic comments from people thinking the exact opposite about themselves...

I have a fairly good idea of Scotland/Wales/NI and the differences from politics and history. I am really bad on northern England though. (Which being from the south coast means most of the country.) Beyond Birmingham its all unintelligible speech, cold, cheap housing and unemployment isn't it? Apart from the National Parks and the 'nice' cities like York, obviously. I am seriously geographically challenged. Different legal systems etc is interesting. The north of England is just grey...

vj32 sounds like stuff for another thread....it's not about Northerner bashing here and also not about blurting out stereotypes...

It was about being geographically challenged - I am pointing out that not knowing the difference about Ireland/NI is really about politics and history not geography. And of course the northerner bit was a joke, my Dad is working class from south Yorkshire. I thought it was ridiculous enough to be obviously a joke. But nevermind.

No vj it wasn't...sorry.

It's what I thought. The website says

Derry City Council

And this is the postal address:

Derry City Council, 98 Strand Road, Derry, BT48 7NN

So to me tit means, and that's what I've heard before, it is absolutely correct to refer to that city as

DERRY