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To think the USA and UK should become 1 country

349 replies

FortyDoorsToNowhere · 31/12/2013 00:08

As the title says.

I think it should happen, not sure why exactly other than to pool out resources.

OP posts:
OodToSeeTheBackOf2013 · 31/12/2013 10:37

Anyway back to the negotiations how about Bruce Forcythe + Justin Fletcher for Hugh Jackman

Actually you can just keep them.

Helpyourself · 31/12/2013 10:40

The thought of not having an NHS scares me.

ComposHat · 31/12/2013 10:49

178 posts on possibly the most idiotic thread in the history of the Internet. It only really needed one stating: you are being daft, get ye to netmums where they will gasp in awe at your piercing geopolitical insight'

Now I have made 179 and bumped it up the list. Bugger.

Snatchoo · 31/12/2013 10:55

What a good idea!

But lets join the UK to the USA so the Yanks are all British Grin

They'll love it!

Snatchoo · 31/12/2013 10:55

Isn't there a transatlantic tunnel thing in the pipeline anyway?

IneedAsockamnesty · 31/12/2013 10:59

A bridge would be so much better,

In high winds it would be like a theme park ride

badtime · 31/12/2013 11:18

Doubleplusun good reasonable

TheSporkforeatingkyriarchy · 31/12/2013 11:20

The UK and the US already pool knowledge and resources - as is done between the UK and lots of other countries for many reasons. One can do both of those and still maintain differences. And the American dream has only ever been available to the few, and to most has been dead a long time.

I'm an American in the UK and the idea of going back gives me nightmares. I would not feel safe to return at all. Not just because of medical reasons (one would have to be very fortunate to have state care so readily available and to have hospitals take their debts, knowing that insurance companies have cut people off for reaching a lifetime limit and having played 'who will take this insurance' ring arounds, I never want to do that again), but the system is is built to protect the few, not the likes of me. Women's health care is continuously restricted (not just abortions but places that do any type of care that could be in any way linked to it), social services in many places are so heavily broken due to financial incentives (more American indigenous children are being taken now than in residential days, over 50% in some counties, and the vast majority placed out of the community even when that is illegal), and the for-profit prison system has created lost generations and communities (and the laws that allow slavery when it is a punishment for a crime never being questioned) not only destroys those in prison and their families, but the general economy as well (most complaints about jobs going abroad in the US are more likely to be replaced by prison labour than foreign labour - even when the US doesn't allow other countries foreign prison labour to be imported). And the education system is even more of a joke for those at the bottom.

The UK still has a lot of work to do and to own up to, but America's system is growing more unequal, more violent towards those at the bottom, and so many at the top are proud of it. It's disturbing. I wouldn't want to hitch ourselves to that.

KeatsiePie · 31/12/2013 20:29

Despite being married I think I would find a sudden influx of healthy British men with various swoony accents very enjoyable. They would be in such nice shape from the long walk over. And perhaps needing to avail themselves of my shower, I would be most welcoming, good diplomatic relations begin at home.

Ohfuckeryitsmarzipan · 31/12/2013 20:32

How much glue have you been on? Shock

KeatsiePie · 31/12/2013 20:35

Oh come on, it would be in the interests of our countries country to be welcoming Grin

/not sure whether honored or appalled to have been asked the glue question

HoneyDragon · 31/12/2013 20:39

And Mnetter that comes up with an idea that means Custy gets a gun need to take a long hard look at themselves.

Seriously, a gun? She's only just committed she peroxided her sons bollocks. The woman's not to be trusted Wink

HoneyDragon · 31/12/2013 20:39

*committed?
Erm admitted....

MrsBeeZed · 31/12/2013 20:42

You'll probably get what you wish for once this new world order bollocks is finally achieved

ElkTheory · 31/12/2013 20:58

Arrgh. Why is it that every single thread on MN that has any relation whatsoever to the US is filled with ridiculous generalisations and insults?

Believe it or not, Americans understand irony (one of the most absurd of the common misconceptions about the US). Not everyone owns guns or worships in a fundamentalist Christian church. Many Americans would be more than happy to have nationalised health care.

Of course the US is no paradise. Neither is the UK.

I find it interesting that the more Americanised the UK becomes, the more intense the anti-American attacks and insults seem to be. One thing I can fairly confidently guarantee. If a similar thread were started on a US-based site, you would not see wholesale slating of the UK (with the possible exception of the obligatory comments about British dentistry).

RandyRudolf · 31/12/2013 21:15

There are definitely things we could learn from one another.

Sadoldbag · 31/12/2013 21:18

No thanks I find Americans highly strug and if people on here thing Dave is right wing they haven't seen anything until they get a look at Obama

David camron looks like a lefty vegan compared to them

Not to mention them treating 12 year old as adults in the justice system
There love for guns dear lord

Sadoldbag · 31/12/2013 21:20

RandyRudolf like what how to deny people health care

Or I guess they could show us how to do poverty propley

revivingsnowshower · 31/12/2013 21:32

Who are all these people saying the US is so different. I think I have watched enough episodes of The Simpsons to see we are very similar as for healthcare I have watched not only House but also Scrubs and US hospitals seem fine and the Drs and nurses are all very amusing. The only thing to do is avoid high school unless you are a cheerleader/jock and you will be fine.

wobblyweebles · 31/12/2013 21:49

Yes ElkTheory, 'tis always the way.

RandyRudolf · 31/12/2013 21:59

Well Sadoldbag I was thinking on the lines of showing them how free healthcare is done and them showing us good customer service.

revivingsnowshower · 31/12/2013 21:59

High school can also be ok if you are a teenage witch, going by dds current favourite Sabrina, but i was a bit surprised to find out it is a really old show and Sabrina is actually now a middle aged witch.

ElkTheory · 31/12/2013 22:28

What the UK could learn from the US:

separation of church and state

strong work ethic (though the US could learn from the UK in terms of days off per year!)

far less obsession with class and more class mobility (though in the last decade or so classes have become more fossilised in the US, a worrying trend)

freedom of the press (especially given the implications of the recent royal charter)

arfishy · 31/12/2013 22:42

Justin? I'm still scarred from DD's toddler years with regard to Justin so that's a big fat no. Shane and Liz - I think the UK and Australia are currently both suffering so perhaps we should offer them to the US?

And I'm not sending Hugh over until I get David DameDeep. I think I'm going to have to up the ante and offer Dame Edna.

Aussie - yep, pool arvo here too and NYE at the beach. There's a gigantic spider somewhere in here but we unleashed the Mortein and hopefully dispatched it.

ArgumentsatChristmas · 31/12/2013 22:46

The divorce happened years ago. Time to move on. We've both got over it. We are enjoying our relationship with the EU, in a subdued grannyish sort of way. The US is enjoying being a superpower and invading places and stuff. We're so over that. Anyway, these long distance relationships never work.

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