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To think the USA and UK should become 1 country

349 replies

FortyDoorsToNowhere · 31/12/2013 00:08

As the title says.

I think it should happen, not sure why exactly other than to pool out resources.

OP posts:
spamm · 07/01/2014 18:56

Crowley - I suppose we have a different approach to things then. I figure that there are tons of morons everywhere, but they do not necessarily represent the heart of any country. There are certainly tons in the UK!

And I do not recognize the Homeland Security argument, but then I was brought up in Europe and Africa, the threat of terrorism was a big part of our lives (Brigate Rosse in Rome, IRA in London and across the UK, the civil war in Mozambique...) so the US certainly seems incredibly laid back to me on that front. Immigration and customs used to be HELL, but it is improving all the time, despite the odd hiccup, and I find general administration reasonable good: you just have to figure out how things work, as it is so very different to the UK or Switzerland.

The big thing for me was that I underestimated how culturally different the two countries are, but I am coming to appreciate it more every day.

ErrolTheDragon · 07/01/2014 18:59

Americans are without question friendlier than Brits.

I'd question that Wink - its down to the individuals you happen to meet. We found it really hard to get to know anyone when we lived in the US - before kids or internet, they'd have helped I'm sure - other than colleagues. Sure, you get to first names quicker and more people say hi but beyond that superficial level not significantly different.

2014meh · 07/01/2014 19:04

OP

Are you on glue ?

Enough said.

SconeRhymesWithGone · 07/01/2014 22:59

I agree the right to roam is great. Last year we were in Scotland and went pretty far off the beaten path in various rural areas. We were on roads that looked more like private driveways, and several times had to open and close gates as we progressed (and wait until the sheep moved off the road). One of our group of four was convinced that we were trespassing and that we would be confronted by a farmer with a shotgun.

I recall that Donald Trump was a bit shocked to learn about the right to roam relative to his fancy new golf development.

SconeRhymesWithGone · 07/01/2014 23:09

Keatsie

right to roam generally in UK

Scotland

mathanxiety · 08/01/2014 06:27

I have (cross my heart) never once seen any sign asking me to report suspicious activity anywhere in a huge and very cold midwestern city that boasts a subway and extensive rail system and two airports. OTOH, London in the early 80s was almost a fortress with signs everywhere. I also had the experience of travelling through Northern Ireland to Donegal from Dublin during the 80s; being stopped in Enniskillen to allow fully armed soldiers walk through the coach and stare at all the passengers makes TSE rudeness pale into insignificance. (And good Lord, they really are incredibly brusque and rude, and there is absolutely no reason for it).

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SoleSource · 07/06/2014 00:45
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PrincessBabyCat · 07/06/2014 00:59

No. We threw your tea in the harbor and booted your ass out for a reason. Wink

Sorry, but your health care makes me cringe. 9 weeks waiting for an MRI, no calling offices to ask doctor's opinions, needing referrals to see specialists, mh and everything else always being on file no matter where you go, having to share a room in the hospital... yuck. No thanks.

Ours may be expensive if you don't buy insurance, but it's being reformed so that everyone is able to buy insurance if they need it. It's not perfect, but we're working on it.

PrincessBabyCat · 07/06/2014 01:18

Americans are without question friendlier than Brits.

Eh... We're only friendly in the southern states. There's nothing like southern hospitality. Midwest is pretty friendly and polite. West coast is full of flakes. East coast isn't very friendly at all.

LithaR · 07/06/2014 02:47

As long as we get some pumpkin pie and twinkies, not signing up without the treats lol

CarbeDiem · 07/06/2014 03:10

Only allowing myself to type - YABVVVVVU op
I don't want to join to America

oohdaddypig · 07/06/2014 03:10

I will take your scenery. And wildlife. And your "can do" attitude.

Your attitude to guns terrifies me. That alone puts me off ever making a move there with the DCs.

The NHS is bust right now. There is a lot the UK gets wrong but I honestly think it offers far more opportunity than the "Land of the Free".

Brabra · 07/06/2014 05:22

MinnesotaNice, your amazing US healthcare gave you a
"Single, ensuite room post-delivery
Lovely food
Cable TV
Epidural within 30 minutes of requesting it (which still let me be mobile)
Extensive support to assist with breastfeeding
DH could stay overnight on a pull-out sofa"

Many people don't want a highly medicalised birth though. And as for your husband staying the night, I was allowed to go home...to my own bed, with the midwives coming out to visit me. The NHS is so much better than anything I have ever experienced in the US and I have been here far longer than I planned.

Brabra · 07/06/2014 05:23

The biggest difference I have noticed is that Americans take life far too seriously, they don't have half as much fun as we Brits do. I miss the sense of humour in the UK, and the sense of fun!

Mya2403 · 07/06/2014 14:03

Hell NO!. Lax gun controls high crime rate.Non existence of basic health care. We have enough problems of our own to deal with. Don't even get.me started on the tea party and abortion laws etc.

cosmicstardust · 07/06/2014 14:31

I am American. I love the UK, but no way in hell would I want to become one country. The UK would end up being a state within the US anyway with some of its own laws and some controlled by Washington, which, as I understand it, is what many in the UK want to get away from in leaving the EU. Canada and the US are actually bordering one another and don't have enough in common to become one country, merging the US with the UK would be ridiculous.

Lanabelle · 07/06/2014 14:35

Hell no

SconeRhymesWithGone · 07/06/2014 14:37

We have basic health care in the US. It is by no means non-existent. Our system is flawed certainly, but the Affordable Care Act will remedy some of the flaws if the Obama-haters give it a chance to work.

lljkk · 07/06/2014 14:41

ZOMBIE THREAD only awoken by spammers.

Rainbunny · 07/06/2014 19:24

Hell no. I live in the USA and the more years I spend here the bigger the cultural differences I notice between Americans and Brits, particularly in the past five years. We may appear to be similar countries but the USA is quite different. I have zero trust in the American government, the entire country is ran by corporate interests. There are virtually no members of congress who aren't millionaires in their own right and there are no effective limits on lobbying by Corporations. Then there's the "individualist" character that Americans' are proud of. What that really means in my experience is that people should expect to take care of themselves, anything approaching a community based solution (which means administered by government) for example healthcare, well that's practically communism in the minds of many Americans. When the Affordable Healthcare Act was debated there were Republican rallies where people would cheer at the mention of a young man dying of brain cancer because he had no health insurance, yes actually cheer! Then's there maternity leave, or lack thereof. The USA is the last country in the developed world to not have any paid maternity leave, you can only get up to 12 weeks of unpaid leave if your company is large enough to fall under the federal statute covering this. I'd take Britain anyday (I'd be back in the UK in a heartbeat if I didn't love my American Husband so much.)

I have some amazing friends here, and I have enjoyed many aspects of my time here but the longer I stay here the more I miss Europe and European values.

TucsonGirl · 07/06/2014 19:26

I don;t even think the US will be a country in 50 years time, no way should we join. We should be an independent country, not part of any superstate whether USA or USE.

brokenhearted55a · 07/06/2014 19:35

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