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To think that in the Lawson/Saatchi/Grillo Case...

151 replies

friday16 · 20/12/2013 15:09

...that if you're richer than the dreams of avarice, and your assistants who know about your and your wife's drug use have been taking the piss financially, your best bet would be to pay them off quietly and put the loss down to (easily affordable) experience, because any other path is going to make you look very foolish?

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ImperialBlether · 20/12/2013 15:41

No, I don't think so.

I don't believe she had a drug habit, either. Or not one that stopped her carrying on with her life, anyway. Do you really think he wouldn't have noticed that?

I think if people steal from you, you tell the police, which is what happened.

As for that jury... I am speechless.

friday16 · 20/12/2013 15:55

As for that jury... I am speechless.

They saw and heard all the witnesses.

The rest of us didn't.

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JustGettingOnWithIt · 20/12/2013 16:28

No it's not your best bet, because 'you' didn't know that was the claim they were going to make until after you throttled her and at picked at her nose conveniently.

Never underestimate the stupidity of a jury. Jury service left me incredibly shocked.

There's only one person who's come out of this still looking decent from where I sit.

SuperStrength · 20/12/2013 16:30

On what planet is it ok to be a functioning drug user? do you have any idea of the harm that is associated with the illegal drug trade?
I think she should be prosecuted for her admissions in court...why shouldn't she be? because she's rich?

SuperStrength · 20/12/2013 16:32

She admitted she smoked cannabis infront of her children....why do I want to see a woman like that on TV/take tips from her on how to make a 'magic christmas'??

I don't know of any family in RL that would think that was acceptable.

quesadilla · 20/12/2013 16:33

what gettingonwithit said: no-one knew that they were going to focus on this so hard to second guess.

Also whatever they were paid by Saatchi/Nigella, the tabloid press could have matched.

And also because I don't buy that Nigella is a "drug addict" or thought she had anything much to hide. She may or may not have used coke more than she claims to have done but so what... Frankly, even if she did, I'd rather be a coke addict than a domestic abuser or a professional gold-digger.

She is the only one who has come out of this with any dignity, IMO. Coke or no coke.

ssd · 20/12/2013 16:37

I dont think she's got much dignity, taking drugs in front of your kids is pretty despicable to me, even if you're gorgeous and loaded.

quesadilla · 20/12/2013 16:39

ssd depends if you believe the Grillos, though, doesn't it. Despite the fact that the jury has cleared them on theft, I'm not convinced on this point. They haven't produced any evidence for it.

mrscumberbatch · 20/12/2013 16:41

Well what age are her children? If they're 5 then it's appalling.

If they're 25 and smoke weed of their own accord then it's a total non-event.

If these assistants have been stealing money then they should be punished. Their employers personal life has fuck all to do with it.

SuperStrength · 20/12/2013 16:41

hang on, she admitted she took coke...in court ...under oath

SuperStrength · 20/12/2013 16:43

i read this on another forum ...makes sense to me ....why Nigella supporting the drug trade is a bad thing...

'It puts money in the hands of organised criminals, who are probably involved in many other crimes connected with, or in addition to drug dealing.

It exploits people who are blackmailed into being couriers, risking their lives in the process. I don't know if 'celebs' get their drugs from 'reputable' (ha) dealers, so avoid having to feel guilty about this.

It keeps some of the poorest nations on earth in a state of near civil war. Countries where kids might be mown down in the street just because they happen to be in the crossfire. In the wrong place at the wrong time.

I can't help but feel that there would have been more outcry if Nigella had used unsustainable fish on her program or advertised clothes made in a sweatshop. Obviously both of these would be 'bad', but compared to what dishing out fifty quid on cocaine actually does, perhaps we are busy looking in the wrong direction. We love to blame 'companies' and 'capitalism' for exploitation, but regard putting money in the hands of rapacious criminals as something a bit 'naughty'. Something that gets a wink and a nod.

One last thought on the drugs mule issue. Do people who use cocaine ever consider that they are sniffing up something that is likely to have passed through another person's gut and shat out the other end?'

Chippednailvarnish · 20/12/2013 16:48

Personally I'd be looking to the accountant who allow the spending to go on unchecked for so long.
£600k is hard to miss.

LadyBeagleEyes · 20/12/2013 16:49

FFS she wasn't on trial here, the drugs allegations should have had nothing to do with the actual facts.
Sadly the prosecution won this case on trying to destroy the reputation of Nigella and the defence didn't put up enough evidence to prove it beyond reasonable doubt.
The whole thing is a farce.

SuperStrength · 20/12/2013 16:49

...or maybe you think she's in good company???...something David Cameron is only too aware of seeing as his wife..the lovely Sam Cam, spent time in rehab for cocaine addiction in the late 90s.

JustGettingOnWithIt · 20/12/2013 16:50

Superstrength large numbers of parents do all sorts of illicit things in front of their late teen children. Large numbers of parents also use drugs recreationally, neither are things I choose to do, but let’s face it the whole point is this is a woman being blackmailed and standing up to it whichever way round you look at it.

Most people brought to court as a witness in a criminal trial would not be investigated for what she's admitted to, regardless of social level or wealth, no I don't think she should be treated differently. Sit in any court for a day and you'll hear all sorts of illegal activity being admitted to as part of evidence or defence.

If you find her repulsive as a result of her admissions then turn her off, don't buy her products, or if you work for her, maybe turn her in, but don't take from her and claim you thought it was ok as long as you didn't dob her in.

Slipshodsibyl · 20/12/2013 16:54

LadyBegle, the prosecution did not win. The defence team won. The jury considered there was insufficient evidence to prove the sisters stole .

quesadilla · 20/12/2013 16:55

SuperStrength there's a world of difference between having used drugs and being a drug addict.

I have used coke, I am not proud of it and I don't plan to do it again. But I am a million miles from being a drug addict.

CranberrySaucyJack · 20/12/2013 16:57

YABU.

Saatchi may well be a complete arsehole in all most other areas of his life, but as far as this case was concerned he was the victim.

He had every justification for bringing the case forward.

JustGettingOnWithIt · 20/12/2013 17:01

^ Yup.

Lazyjaney · 20/12/2013 17:01

I think that everything everyone said about each other was probably true.

I think there was no other possible verdict, and that Team Nigella should get over it now.

LadyBeagleEyes · 20/12/2013 17:03

Your're right Slip, I got a bit mixed up there, but I'm still Team Nigella. I hope the media keep her in work, in fact give her more. I think a lot of people are totally disgusted about how she was treated in this trial.

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SuperStrength · 20/12/2013 17:13

So someone admits using illegal drugs in court & they are not prosecuted??? why??

I'm sure Tulisa is with me in not understanding why...

I'm sure other people who have children also take illegal drugs...they probably haven't admitted in in court though have they?

I thought the law was meant to be applied to all?

summermovedon · 20/12/2013 17:24

Who get's prosecuted for using drugs? Supplying & dealing sure. But seriously. Anyway, if people were to be jailed for using a very high proportion of the country would be in jail! Doesn't make it right, but then lots of things aren't right.