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AIBU, the miltery awards on ITV

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RoseRedder · 16/12/2013 21:01

AIBU?

I think this is wrong

The 'wars' these men/women have been in are all made up wars by the UK and USA government

And now there is a tv programme giving them celebrity status

I don't doubt the people of will be nominated will have gone out their way to aid their colleagues

But turning war into a tv programme is beyond sick

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Mitchy1nge · 16/12/2013 21:54

ah yes, the falklands/kuwait

hard to tell all these made up places apart especially when they are so geographically similar

LtEveDallas · 16/12/2013 21:57

Mind you Mitchy, they do have one similarity - both wars were the result of one country illegally invading another and UK/US assets being used to restore order.

How that becomes 'made up' I'm not sure though.

TSSDNCOP · 16/12/2013 21:57

Can you even point at a single war not initiated by a Government?

Did you stand up and march against the Iraq War?

The Labour Govt under Tony Blair achieved re-election after the onset of the Iraq War. Hope you didn't vote Labour OP.

As to the Armed Forces, programmes such as this highlight the vast reach of their skills from search and rescue to peace keepers. In the course of the latter, too many have suffered life changing injuries or lost their lives.

Personally I think we should have a programme every week about these people and you can throw in the fire service, paramedics, nurses as well for good measure.

IamInvisible · 16/12/2013 21:57

How many more threads do there have to be like this? Every Remembrance Sunday we get them. Any excuse and there is one.

These awards do not glorify war. Having no Armed Forces would not stop war, as has been suggested in the past months. If people didn't sign up voluntarily, then people would be forced to do it. Which would you prefer?

SPSJSAT · 16/12/2013 21:58

Yeah.. Reunited serving members of our Armed Forces who've barely seen each other since they got married 18 months ago.

The bastards.

Hmm
chuddies · 16/12/2013 22:04

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RoseRedder · 16/12/2013 22:09

Did you stand up and march against the Iraq War?

Yes I did

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monicalewinski · 16/12/2013 22:09

Really Rose?

I'm all for you having an opinion and expressing it wherever you see fit, in fact the men and women you are against have fought for you to have that right (but you know this).

I think if you are going to speak out against something you should know a little about it though.

Falklands - invaded. British citizens, therefore task force sent to defend our citizens.

Kuwait - invaded. Mandate to go in and protect the people of Kuwait against their invader.

Bosnia - peacekeeping.

Iraq & Afghanistan - Tony fucking Blair trying to seal his 'legacy'. However, the British forces out there have done a lot of other stuff too - not just 'killing civilians'.

When the fire strikes were happening, who covered? Lockerbie plane crash, who helped pick up the remains of the passengers? Foot & Mouth disease, who dealt with? Flooding and natural disasters, in this country and abroad, who deals with it? The prison officers strike that nearly happened, who was on standby to cover? The Olympics security farce, who stepped in to cover? Mountain and air/sea rescue, who does it?

I could go on and fucking on, but I'm boring myself now.

If you have done anything like those examples, please feel free to come back and tell me to fuck off, until then - do some reading and at least do yourself the courtesy of making an informed opinion before you spout off shite.

NigellaLaw5on · 16/12/2013 22:11

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chuddies · 16/12/2013 22:11

please dont forget Op Banner aka Northern Ireland - that was made up tooo!!!!

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RoseRedder · 16/12/2013 22:13

we follow orders without question @ chuddies

there in may lie the problem.

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IamInvisible · 16/12/2013 22:14

Nigella, DS1 is neither mental or brain dead, thank you very much. He is, infact incredibly intelligent. There is far more to being in the Army than going to Afghanistan which is why he wants to join.
DH joined the RAF in 1986, he is quite sane too.

TheNightIsDark · 16/12/2013 22:15

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RoseRedder · 16/12/2013 22:15

oh come on

The falklands did not belong britain

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LtEveDallas · 16/12/2013 22:16

Actually Nigella, someone who enlists now is highly unlikely to see active service in Afghanistan, seeing as we are on our way back out.

So 'mental brain dead buffoon' right back atcha sweetie.

Chuddies, no need for that. It is easy to lose your temper, but the best of us are trained not to.

ThursdayLast · 16/12/2013 22:16

OP, have you name changed since Nov 11?
You seem familiar

IamInvisible · 16/12/2013 22:17

Rose the Falklands are British! Ask the people, they voted that they want to remain British, FFS.

LtEveDallas · 16/12/2013 22:17

Rose, the Falkland Islanders are British and wish to remain British. They are not Argentinian and do not wish to be Argentinian, nor under Argentine rule.

Check your history.

DeckTheHallsWithBoughsOfHorry · 16/12/2013 22:17

The Falklands were and are populated by people who consider themselves British Confused

Gossipmonster · 16/12/2013 22:18

Think people get confused with politicians and servicemen.

Yes nowadays they choose to do the job and they get paid to do it. In WW1 15 yr old kids got sent to the trenches, I cannot imagine what they went through or what their families must have gone through. My son is 16.

Politics aside, at the moment we need an armed defence and fair play to the people prepared to be a part of that, and their families ESP their children. We all serve by default.

Unless you have known how it feels to have a loved one away and not know where they are or if they are safe then you should be grateful there are people doing that necessary job for you while you bury your head in the sand.

I am immensely proud of the work my OH does/is part of protecting our country from the threat of Nuclear attack, on Trident spending months out of contact with us and not knowing if we are ok and the sacrifices he makes.

Why should we not celebrate this? Better than the bloody soap awards.

halestone · 16/12/2013 22:19

Yes OP it does, you sound like the type of person whom i wouldn't want to meet in the street. You feel its ok to say these things about soldiers gaining celebrity status for receiving an award for helping out a fellow human being. To me these are the type of people young people should be looking up too. Like i said before regardless of their profession they have gone above and beyond what is expected of them.

SPSJSAT · 16/12/2013 22:20

oh come on

The falklands did not belong britain

Oh dear.

monicalewinski · 16/12/2013 22:20

Rose, Rose, Rose!

Bless you, you little cherub!

Perhaps you could furnish me with your woefully uninformed opinion on the other points I raised??

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RoseRedder · 16/12/2013 22:21

Rose the Falklands are British! Ask the people, they voted that they want to remain British, FFS.

Yes they are now but they weren't before a war broke out over it

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ItsAliveItsElectric · 16/12/2013 22:22

Nigella, if anyone is mental or brain dead its you. People choose the armed forces for many reasons, and all are proud to serve their country. People like you make me so so angry, you have no idea whatsoever of the sacrifices men and women make. But then you obviously aren't watching this programme or you would show some respect an humility