To be concerned about Fukushima? seen some alarming FB posts that claim to be credibly sourced?

specialsubject · 13/12/2013 14:16

why? Do you live nearby? Anything changed?

MrsTerrysChocolateOrange · 13/12/2013 14:17

Link then. There is a piece of nonsense on mine purporting to be a pattern of the spread of radioactive material and is nothing of the sort.

VerySmallSqueak · 13/12/2013 14:20

I have remained concerned about it tbh.

Can you do a link?

ElbowPrincess · 13/12/2013 14:21

I have been concerned since it happaened. It wont just go away but I think it will be in the years to come that we will see the devastating effects.

sashh · 13/12/2013 14:28

So what are these posts saying?

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ClifftopCafe · 13/12/2013 14:29

If you google 'Fukushima out of control December 2013' it should come up.

Not sure if this is as recent clip as it claims? There are various news reports out there. From what I can understand they are saying that a core has recently melted down and highly radioactive steam is continually being released from cracks in the ground. Or something like that. Ground water is radioactive at the site or so they say.

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sashh · 13/12/2013 15:03

OK I googled, I watched the you tube video and then I looked at the date posted, August 2013.

If you look at the green tape along the bottom it refers to a jail term of 4 years for facebook activity - looks like this www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/aug/16/uk-riots-four-years-disorder-facebook also in August.

Very odd.

SoullessButSunny · 13/12/2013 15:08

I've read about how the contaminated water is leaking into the ocean via ground water.

The Japanese government is talking about building an ice wall to contain it all.

They cannot build containers for the water quickly enough apparently

I too have remained worried since it first happened but Iam a worrier have an o fuck sack and everything

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ClifftopCafe · 13/12/2013 15:30

Very odd indeed. RT news report is what I saw, apparently a news black out in the USA? Is this scare mongering rubbish?

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mariamuir · 14/12/2013 12:01

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There is a media blackout in Japan, especially Fukushima. 300 tons of contaminated water flows in to the Pacific every day. There are also high radiation levels outside and around reactor 1, so much so that if you spend 20min in that area, you will die...

HesterShaw · 14/12/2013 12:12

I would be avoiding ALL Pacific caught fish, if I were a fish eater, which I'm not. This includes tinned tuna, which is also full of mercury and other heavy metals.

I recently read a very upsetting account of a voyage across the Pacific to the north American coast. Firstly they kept damaging the hull of the boat because of the incomprehensible amount of rubbish in the sea. Secondly, where were all the birds? Gone. There's nothing left for them to eat. They also saw one solitary, dying whale, lying at the surface gasping for breath, with a hideous looking growth on its side. Passing reefs on isolated islands, they watched Japanese factory trawlers sweeping back and forth across the reefs, back and forth, day and night, hauling out everything in their path, leaving nothing behind except dead reef, so that humans can get their cheap fish. Multiply that trawler by a thousand, a hundred thousand.

Quite apart from Fukashima, the Pacific is fucked. We have managed to wreck the vastest ocean on earth.

CeQueLEnfer · 14/12/2013 12:20

HesterShaw, that's so horribly sad

Lazysuzanne · 14/12/2013 12:24

Crikey I had no idea :(

HesterShaw · 14/12/2013 12:53

Sad yes.

But it also makes me so impotently furious. They know this is happening. Fishermen know, governments know, scientists know, yachtsmen know.

Nothing is done because it's just too difficult. Try enforcing catch limits in the middle of a vast ocean, to men who are flogging cheap mass caught, trawled fish to the sushi industry. They're also stockpiling bluefin tuna and freezing it, so that when it is extinct (soon) they can release it in a controlled way so as not to flood the market. This is how the diamond industry works, and it keeps the prices up. These men know exactly what they are doing. They're causing extinction, on purpose.

And the radiation disaster unfolding in front of us is on top of all that is going on now, and has been for years.

The Pacific is dying and the world is just watching it happen

magicbiscuits · 14/12/2013 13:00

Media blackouts are impossible to control these days, what with social media.

If this really were a cause for concern, we would have heard about it by now via Twitter/Youtube etc.

RedLondonBus · 14/12/2013 13:00

This is shocking! I had no idea

HesterShaw · 14/12/2013 13:02

But it's only plastered over Twitter and YouTube if people care enough for that to happen.

That's quite a dangerous attitude in my opinion - "it can only be a problem and true, if it's all over Twitter and YouTube."

slothlike · 14/12/2013 13:19

I don't necessarily disbelieve anything thats being said in this thread, but could someone explain to me why it hasn't been officially reported in the UK (as far as I've heard) if it's true? And why supermarkets would be allowed to continue to stock fish from the Pacific Ocean? Is there a blackout here, and what would the benefit be? I realise I may be extremely naive, but it doesn't make sense to me. Would like to get my facts (or at least 'likely facts') straight before I start omitting all our usual fish products from the weekly shop...!

I just had a look at the fish fingers we've got in the freezer, and apparently they're from the Pacific, which doesn't exactly fill me with joy if all the info in this thread is accurate as my family eat them regularly, along with tuna.

flatpackhamster · 14/12/2013 13:28

ClifftopCafe

Very odd indeed. RT news report is what I saw, apparently a news black out in the USA? Is this scare mongering rubbish?

Russia Today? You mean Pravda?

Do you really need to be told whether or not it's scaremongering rubbish? Do you really think there would be a successful global news blackout if it were true?

mariamuir · 14/12/2013 13:28

There are videos on YouTube and many Facebook pages and posts are continually being removed. Twitter censors information if it doesn't fall in to line with mainstream media as with most social media sites. All these media outlets are controlled and censored. They don't tell you the truth. That's not their job anymore.

Go to YouTube and type in 'Plum Gate', 'Fukushima' 'Hatrick Penry' 'Jim Stone' and you can view all the documentation and evidence before it all gets removed again.

flatpackhamster · 14/12/2013 13:40

mariamuir

There are videos on YouTube and many Facebook pages and posts are continually being removed. Twitter censors information if it doesn't fall in to line with mainstream media as with most social media sites. All these media outlets are controlled and censored. They don't tell you the truth. That's not their job anymore.

Maybe they remove it because it's conspiracy theorist BS propagated by mentalists.

gordyslovesheep · 14/12/2013 13:43

www.snopes.com/photos/technology/fukushima.asp

HesterShaw · 14/12/2013 13:46

While you're at it, Google "mercury contamination" in fish.

Women from communities in America's pacific north west which have traditionally eaten a lot of fish from the top of the food chain are actually being advised to ff their babies, especially first babies, rather than bf. (no I don't work for a formula company. That's what I was accused of last time I mentioned this fact!) The guy who wrote the relevant report is a marine biologist - he doesn't work for a formula company either. There's a connection with mortality of the first infant in marine mammals (apex predators containing vast amounts of pollutants). Their first infants die because these poisons are stored in their fat and released in concentrated quantities with their first lactation. There could also be a connection with the fact that as first time mothers, they're less proficient at looking after young as well, he conceded.

Again not directly connected to Fukashima but perhaps another reason to think twice about eating lots of fish from the region.

DoctorTwoTurtleDoves · 14/12/2013 13:48

There's been very little reported about this on MSM. I've seen reports on RT, France24 and Aljazeera, plus online on a few alternative news sites. Activist Post is a good place to geo as it acts as a news aggregator from various sources.

The amount of radiation being released is very worrying. I've seen reports (can't remember where, sorry) of animals dying with strange sores and tumours on the north western coast of the US. If they're proven to be caused by radiation poisoning from Fukushima it could be the death of the nuclear industry.

HesterShaw · 14/12/2013 13:49

No before anyone says, I'm not saying that British women should ff their babies.

Just that a lot of fish contains concentrations of toxic pollutants and we're now finding them at the top of the food chain i.e in humans.