to find "Merry F*******g Christmas cards offensive ?

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Apparently Urban Outfitters are selling cards with this on. I looked at their website and they also have cards which say "Tinsel tits".
Am I being unreasonable or am I turning into my Grandma ?
I am not a Christian, but I try not to offend other faiths.

I'm a Christian. I think I'd probably be a little be offended to recieve one.

And yet I find the 'Jesus loves everyone......except you, you cunt' joke quite funny.

I have to admit I have stood and read all those type of cards and had a real chuckle and I intend to buy the paper that usual suspect spoke about to wrap all my brothers gifts up . I can't see anything wrong with them but you have to really know the person well to pick something like this. I have sent birthday cards in the same vein.

I don't find swearing offensive, I just don't find it funny. If I received a card like this I wouldn't put it up though because I wouldn't want DD or her friends to think that cards like that are appropriate.

There are so many different names for festivals throughout the world, for many different reasons. Why certain names have stuck in certain countries can seem quite arbitrary.

In Sweden for instance Christmas is known as Jul (Yule) by both christians and non-christians, which is the pagan word for the mid winter festival. Conversely all Swedes call Easter - Paask (passing) which is a christian meaning.

So the opposite of the UK's Christmas and Easter current naming traditions.

I am trying to think what it is about the "Happy F'ing Christmas" joke irritates me - probably because it's trying to be all edgy, and failing, because its a word that would have been very shocking on a Christmas card 15 years ago, but since Billy Connolly said it every second word, the shock wore off quickly.

Any shop that does anything to try to be cool, wont get my business.

And not everyone likes to swear so even if its on MN it doesnt mean we cant chose not to write out the word in full, its OK either way

Or even "choose"

REDSHIFTER

She talks to my DH and we both speak to her DH but she just ignores me and my grown up children and looks the other way. I am a atheist but I can speak nicely to other people. Even her 3 year child talks to us all.

There's no rule that says Christians have to be doormats and accept anything offensive anyone sends them, is there?

Not a very christian atitude. Have you said hello to her in nine years?

In the end I sent them a card it was a little girl dressed as a fairy because it reminded me of the child, I hope she liked the card. What is funny is that her sister talks to my daughter because they work at the same company.

I think these are designed for edgy young adults/teens in a jokey manner rather than fully grown adults to send to their mother in law....

Christmas is so commercialised anyway that it isn't really a direct hit at Christians. For many it is just a celebration of the winter season/festivities/tradition where family get together, it is chaotic, stressful but exciting.

I find the incessant commercialisation of christmas and twee sentimental shit like that fucking John Lewis advert far more offensive.

If you have received one then maybe you can find it offensive and be peeved that someone you know has misjudged you so badly. But to just see them in a shop/online seems a bit over the top. You are not target market. Just move away....

The solstice was originally on the 25th in 45BC when the Julian calendar was devised. The Julian calendar has a year length of 365.25 days, which is about 10 minutes too long, and so the solstices drifted backwards by about 1 day every 130 years. The Gregorian calendar, devised in 1582 and now almost universal, adjusted the solstice back to the date it was at the first council of Nicea in 325AD (which fixed the date of Easter), which was the 21st. The solstice will stay on the same date now, since the Gregorian year length is much more accurate, and we have leap seconds to make fine adjustments.