To think the 'community shop' thing is going to get abused by some.

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For people who dont know there is a food bank kind of thing been set up in Barnsley where shops give food and it is sold at like 70% off. This is only for people on benefits from what i can gather, where they can get a loaf of bread for 20p and other things free. In the ideal world this would be a brilliant source of food for people in need but i cant help thinking there are people out there who wont use this as its intended purpose and spend their benefits on non essentials and think its ok because theres always things like food banks etc to fall back on. I also find ita bit of a pisstake that its only for people on benecits when there are a large number of people in this country who work and are just as poor.

That seemed to be your point, but your OP ends up looking more like a rant against people on benefits. How dare they buy "non essentials"? And then you end by calling it a pisstake because it's only for people on benefits.

It is this attitude that people are taking offence at.

What next, people on benefits shouldn't be allowed to buy Christmas presents as they are non essential?

Pretty much
No, I was reffering to drugs and alcohol.

I'm couldn't get worked up by a benefit claimant buying a cheap box of Mr Kiplin French Fancies if I tried.

I knew as soon as I heard about it on the news that people would moan about this Usual. So I'm not surprised.
Who really wants the stigma of having to shop there? I'm on ESA and struggle with the food shop, but there will be people on incomes that can afford it but resent poor people having any advantage (if you can call it that) at all.
I don't get the black market thing at all, it makes me imagine people standing furtively on street corners trying to flog baked beans.

One thing Im sure we can all agree on is that its a sad state of affairs that people are having to use such things

So you think people on benefits are more interested in buying drugs and alcohol?

You want a spade for that hole you're digging?

What a shitty attitude OP.
I think the shop is a positive thing, it reduces waste and brings costs down for struggling families.
And so what if they spend their money on something else? What business is it if yours? They might be trying to buy their DC's essential items such as shoes/ coats. Some of the people using the shop had about £30 a week spare after bills were paid. This was to spend on food and anything else they needed.
I personally can spend £30 in Tesco nipping in just for milk.

I'd rather not be able to go and shop in one of those stores because it means as a family we have enough money. And are very very very fortunate. We too were once in the position of claiming benefits. 5 years ago. Again we were lucky as we had a small redundancy pay out and insurance to cover our mortgage.

It would be great if these kind of stores could spring up all over and everyone could have access but in the meantime I am happy for those less fortunate than me to benefit.

YES! Let's focus our hate and anger on that and the people that put us there. Not the people forced to buy food that would normally get thrown away.

I said "they do a job" !!! So you added an extra do in your original forwarding post then? And no they don't do a job. They do a shit one. Unless you meaning leaving thousands thinking they have no choice but to end their life's because of how the government and society view them. Then yes they do an excellent bloody good job in that case! .

Directed at OP btw

usualsuspect . Didn't take long for the drugs and
alcohol comments to come into play does it.

Not everyone the minority!! Good Lord I think I'll just quit before i get eaten

MissPixie it took me ages to get to drugs and alcohol actually, are you struggling to read the thread again?

. Seff can I borrow your Bingo pen please. Mine has ran out already! ,.

No you're obviously struggling to read it though. Or probably just struggling to accept the posts aren't going in the benefit bashing way you wanted.

Ok i apologise to everyone Ive offended although not sure how Ive done it... that will be my naivity again

Or your ignorance or is it stupidity?

it seems your counter argument is..."its not fair"

which is a shit counter argument actually.

how about

lots of people will benefit from this amazing idea which lessens food wastage and enables those who can't fucking eat because of the fucking awful Conservative policies.

MPs to get a 11% pay rise and ian Duncan smith spends £39 on ONE breakfast whilst others starve

I'll tell you whats not fair

its not fair that my fucking taxes pay towards MP lunches, cars, second homes, heating and lighting bills

My taxes paid for Ian duncans smiths underpants - his fucking underpants

the real question here should be

why are the government waging war on the poor, why are various multiple large charities concerned at the amount of food banks we have and the lack of something to eat for many in this country

why are the circumstances such that this shop even has to exist.

I also have to pull you up on ATOS - they are so cruel that they force terminally ill people to go back to work, they have directly contributed to the deaths of many disabled people, the assessments are insane
disabled people forced to assessment centres where they have to walk up steps to get in, then they are left waiting for hours on end in cold rooms.

Actually if anyone has access to one of these shops I'm willing to pay up to 80p for a box of french fancies

I wanted to join this thread to say something positive about this idea because it is good that all this food that has taken energy to produce just gets binned for non safety reasons like seasonal packaging, misprint on the label or misshaped / broken ingredient element etc.
But I find myself writing this ... that I am despairing that we are heading back towards a Hobbesian nightmare where life in 'nasty, brutish and short' because there are so many people in our suposedly modern advanced society who cannot see beyond their own personal 'entitlement' .
It won't be long before the 'hard working, taxpaying public' start building bonfires to burn the feckless, the underclass, the undeserving poor and when they're gone who next? The sick? People with disabilities? The Elderly! Keep following the logic and once you've stopped being 'a hard working taxpayer' your value as a human beings diminishes along with the ability to fight gladiator style for every crumb thrown from the table of a corporate interested , globalised profit margin oriented, politically and morally corrupt elite.
Instead of begrudging your neighbour what ever comfort they can find in these hard times, why not direct your ire at campaigning to rebuild this once great 'society' .. Where the collective good, fought for by trade unionists, suffragettes, and other social reformers ... (you know .. our great grand dads and grandmas who fought in the war/s to make this country great ' ) to secure a better life for future generations by demanding, what are now called pejoratively 'political correctness gone mad' rules and welfare systems based tolerance and respect and mutual support for each other. ...
Don't throw away your hard won freedom and rights (to an education that equips you take your place in the world as an equal of all men and women, free on need health care, a home with security of tenure, safe working conditions and a living wage for your labour, equality and acess to justice regardless of gender, ethnicity or religion etc) because of base brutish instincts being fostered and fed through propaganda and misinformation by a press and media owned by ... (you getting it yet ? ) .... the self serving global corporate elite.
If you want to get angry ... get angry about that .. And not whether someone as badly off as you has fiddled an extra 5 p off a tin of beans or bought 12 mushy bananas in a bag for 99p. Please.

what omg said... well said

I never said ATOS do a good job but i think they are needed, or if not them another organisation.
The Government's own figures for fraud are 0.04%. So no, they're not needed.

I didnt bring up anything about benefits meaning unemployed, when i said about being able to appeal it was meant as a point that they will still be recieving an income.
Actually, that isn't the case, for disabled people, as of last year, you are not paid dla whilst appealing. IDS has also stated that there will no longer be a right to appeal after 2015. Thereby further endangering the lives of ill and disabled people.

The reality

I don't u d'état an the meanspiritidness of threads like this and the one where the lad was given a free Xbox by one company because he'd been scammed by another company.
There's not a limited pot of goodwill or luck. If one person gets a break it doesn't mean someone else suffers. On the contrary.
If such things wind you up, look to yourself and try and find some empathy.