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To wonder what year 7 pupils get from building a castle model

195 replies

Verycold · 07/12/2013 11:23

In history? What is the point?? How does it actually improve their higher level history skills?

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GlaikitInAPearTree · 07/12/2013 11:49

Quite clearly the school is shite. Withdraw her immediately. Xmas Hmm

fairylightsatchristmas · 07/12/2013 11:50

I do exactly this task with my Y7s and in RS they build synagogues. They can do it on minecraft, build in lego or biscuits if they like! They don't just do the basic shape, they do working drawbridges, wire up little lights to batteries etc. Plenty to tech and science in there. The idea is also to give an alternative to the endless writing that they do so that those who don't shine at that skill get their chance. Last year one of the weakest boys in the class who always gets "much try harder" type comments, got merits and his model kept to use an example for this year. He has just asked me if I have shown the new Y7s and was SO chuffed when I said yes. (And some of the Y7s have found him and told him how great it was.) They also have the option on doing it in pairs so maybe your DD could team up with someone a bit more handy? I am really surprised you say you are a teacher if you don't understand this fairly basic pedagogical idea.

natwebb79 · 07/12/2013 11:51

Chippy - well done for giving your DS the message that his teacher is somebody who can be disrespected and that work set is optional depending on whether his mum thinks it's worth doing. That attitude will do him the world of good in the long run Confused

Shente · 07/12/2013 11:52

I can't believe your attitude, do you also feel that educational visits to castles etc are a waste of time? After all they could just read and write essays about them. And your arrogance in assuming your dd's learning style is the only one that should be catered for is astounding.

Feminine · 07/12/2013 11:53

very cold

You sound like a right odd bod.

Yr 7 is hardly 18.

some of them have just turned 11 in August!

You should know that not all kids learn by writing essays.

My son has dysgraphia it actually hurts him to write!

Verycold · 07/12/2013 12:14

Are you honestly all saying that your heart doesn't sink ag this type of h/w? The sourcing of materials, the parental input required... I work full time and have two other children, one with sn. It's just an extra hassle I could do without. Why can't there be the option to label z diagram for those who can't do it? I don't want to take anything away for those who love it, but I just want the choice!

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ChippyMinton · 07/12/2013 12:15

natwebb79 - that's a bit harsh. He certainly does not get that message, and history is one of his favourite subjects. He spent the time producing several awesome written pieces (that is his strength btw - he got a level 6 in his English SATS), and is out for the entire weekend following his other interests.

Feminine · 07/12/2013 12:15

little bit of backtracking there very

that should have been your original post shouldn't it? Wink

DoYouLikeMyBaubles · 07/12/2013 12:18

very I do get your point, I think the school should provide materials but in this case if they haven't, your y7 boy surely can go and source them himself.. help you with your weekly shop perhaps and add the stuff he needs? You don't have to do anything for him, he's old enough to do it himself.

ChippyMinton · 07/12/2013 12:18

DS would've leapt at the opportunity to do this piece using Minecraft.
I alos work, have 2 other DC, one on whom is also building a model. OUr dining table looks like the Blue Peter studio. Over the years we 've done greek pots more than once, endless costumes, models, etc and I would like to stop now please.

Rosencrantz · 07/12/2013 12:19

A much more reasonable post OP!

You can't be arsed to do it! Not that you refuse to see the task's value and oppose it on those grounds.

GlaikitInAPearTree · 07/12/2013 12:19

As a teacher do you set different homework for each child depending on their home circumstances?

I personally love this type of thing. Ds isn't at school yet, but I've helped neighbours kids before. But then I'm a crafty person.

However, at 11, shouldn't your DD be "sourcing" her own materials and completing the bulk of it herself?

Ever wondered if Dds hatred of model making stems from the attitudes she is surrounded by?

NoComet · 07/12/2013 12:21

How to ice a carved cake, without getting in a crumbly mess and enjoy eating it.

DD1's projects have taught her how to cast metal (because DH had a serve was dying to plat with) and how to say a huge thank you to your DM.

(I quite enjoyed making her WE2 model, but..)

Hollyandbooze · 07/12/2013 12:21

VAK learning.
Reciprocity.

Fun.

DoYouLikeMyBaubles · 07/12/2013 12:21

Sorry got DD and DS mixed up, please swap my his and he's for hers!

NoComet · 07/12/2013 12:21

set he wanted to play with

soverylucky · 07/12/2013 12:21

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Rosencrantz · 07/12/2013 12:22

OP how are you coping with food technology?

donttellmetokeepcalm · 07/12/2013 12:24

mine made hers out of cake - the whole class ate it. not sure it totally fitted the brief but hey ho....

natwebb79 · 07/12/2013 12:26

Chippy - it's still going against what his teacher has asked him to do and therefore podding on his/her fire somewhat. This is why Scandinavian/Asian countries do so much better in the league tables, because parents fully support the teachers' judgement and reinforce messages they learn in school at home.

bigTillyMintspie · 07/12/2013 12:27

Verycold, DD had to do this in Y7. Bloody palaver. And she is pretty good at art/creative stuff! Thank God they didn't ask DS to do it when he was in Y7Grin

MrsCakesPremonition · 07/12/2013 12:27

My DDad is 70yo. He made a model of a castle at school. It is one of his fondest memories. he went on to become a Civil Engineer. Maybe the two things are connected? At any rate, it certainly didn't seem to have a detrimental impact on his education.

Perhaps you should simply consider that your child is upholding a tradition of crappy castle building dating back to at least the early 1950s.

Dawndonnaagain · 07/12/2013 12:28

It's a visual aid to teach all sorts of things, from which part of the castle is which, to the structure of the society at the time. It covers everyday living; food collection, cooking, eating, to warfare: where the fletcher worked to which parts of the ramparts to fire from.

Doubletroublemummy2 · 07/12/2013 12:29

I have an idea, let not get the kids to do anything they or their parents don't want and just give them a sticker at the end of it all.

ilovesooty · 07/12/2013 12:29

What's all this crap about parental input? Make your children do their own homework. It's totally disrespectful to the teacher to do it for them. No wonder we have young adults still expecting mummy to get them out of anything they don't feel like doing.