aibu to think postman should not be changing tyres/ talking at length with people on his rounds?

[Nomorepat]

Waiting for an important letter which is dependent on what time I receive it today. So go for a stroll to see if postie is in area. There is he is in the next street changing some girl's tyre for her-I know this is not his car and ours is his last street. He then proceeds to chat to this girl for about 10 minutes, then another woman for about 5 minutes.

I am peed off about this. AIBU?

Our postie is great. He remembers my name, says hi in the street. He walks bloody fast (and has muscly calves as well). He wears shorts in all weathers because he burns off so much energy - he walks fast, pushes that heavy trolley and carries a heavy bag. yet he has a smile and a wave for everyone.
OP what a miserable attitude.

Just wow.

OP, you make me want to give up my job, become a postie, be YOUR postie where I would skate past your entitled house wearing a tyre on my head and eating cake. I would deliver to your house last. Every single day possible. I'd also piss through your letterbox if I had the right equipment

You can't be real. Can't be. But now every inconsiderate driver, every wanker Parker, every tosser customer, every finger clicking diner etc I see, I will imagine is you. Because that is how you come across.

I actually initially read your username as NOMOREXPAT which I felt explained your entitled spoilt brat behaviour. I lived in Dubai for a couple of years and was surrounded by sour faced, lemon sucking "world revolves around me" types, just like you. Maybe move there. You can't get any fucking post as there are no addresses really. Something you'd be able to really rant about. But I reckon you'd rant about any tiny misjudged slight against yourself.

Jeez, talk about first world problems. "My post was delivered even though my postie changed a tyre and talked to someone. Waaaaaaaaaaaa"

Sounds like a lovely postie. When my 73 year old auntie fell this year and broke her arm and ankle her postie completely ignored her and carried on with his round. he didn't ask if she was OK, offer any help or even ring an ambulance for her.
My auntie had to drag herself back onto the kerb and was struggling so long he had finished her street and was on his way back. A neighbour ended up helping her.

I would much rather have a postie like yours then one like my aunties so YABVU

YANBU

Would it still be OK if it was his girlfriend ?

Would it still be OK if it was a male friend ?

Would it still be OK if he was doing a bit of say accounting/ IT moonlighting ?

Slippery slope.

If I had a flat tire I would be so grateful for any help. Your postie sounds lovely. YABVU and mean spirited!

Achy - I couldn't care less who he was helping. Not sure why someone sex would have any bearing on it at all

I'm genuinely astonished that people who hold this sort of opinion exist OP. You are truly breathtaking.

I think in future you should cut out using the mail service and do it yourself. See how far your 30 / 40p gets you. "Paying their wages" bullshit...that wouldn't even pay to get me to the end of my road!

AND, however long it takes for him to deliver your letter, the contents remain the same. Exam results, job acceptance letters don't spontaneously change I'd they are delivered half an hour late.

You are TRULY unbelievable!

archy

If he was taking a legally entitled to break it wouldn't matter who it was.

Our postie is fecking gorgeous. He can change my tyre anytime. Maybe I should tamper with the engine and then ask him to have a feel under my bonnet?

YANBU - that would piss me off too - he should be doing his job.

Gosh the OP's world is a happy place isn't it?

Nobody has mentioned the 93% yet?

Royal Mail's target is to deliver 93% of first class post the next day.

So even if they are operating as they should, that's a 1 in 14 chance that you won't get your letter at all that day.

Comparing delivering post to working behind a counter or in a shop or at a restaurant doesn't work- it's not a job where you are paid for a certain amount of time, it's a job where you are paid for a certain amount of stuff done.

As long as all post is delivered that day (probably by certain deadline, but that could be 6pm) then he can do it in whatever order he likes and spend as much time as he likes on "distractions" as long as it is DONE by the end of the day.

I have a small amount of sympathy - if I were waiting for an important letter and I could see the postie meandering up the other side of the street slowly I would feel deliver to MEEEEEE next but I'd acknowledge that I was unreasonable.

Your subsequent posts rather evaporated that sympathy though.

I'm with the OP. What a horrible world we would be living in if people gave each other help when they needed it. Crime would stop. Wars would end. The Israeli President would french kiss the leader of Hamas. Poverty would be no more. That's what Love-A-Lot Bear wanted. Disgusting.

My god If I had only stuck to 'my job' as in the contract my clients would have been all the worse off. It was not in my 'job description' to connect washing machines, do shopping, round up thirty feral cats found in a clients house, clean windows, go crabbing.......The World goes round and kindness prevails because people are not jobsworths.

Extraordinarily concrete ideation by the OP.

TiggyD you really think wars would end, they wouldn't. Most people who start wars think they are doing the right thing. For the 'good' of the people. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Once again, before somebody does tweet this thread or something similar, please don't: it doesn't really matter to me because I am anonymous and the postie is anonymous, too, however, I will say this about Royal Mail: they will not take kindly to it.

There will be more 'your job is to deliver the mail, not do x, y, or z' notices sent around to postman. Remember, their drive is profit, not kindness.

See what I mean about the road to hell? Ironically, by tweeting this, you will be helping to stop acts of kindness.

No they won't, a postman is required to deliver the letters, within the timeframe of that day, he's also legally entitled to take a break when he needs one. Postmen aren't sat in a little office, and able to nip out for a sandwich and a coffee when it's their legally entitled break. They're allowed to take it when they want. Their job is to deliver the letters they are given to deliver, they have a shift they're assigned to, but they don't have to get the post delivered within that shift, they just have to get the post delivered.

Your postman did nothing wrong. Give up, it's getting tedious, and you are showing yourself up.

I work in the police. I spent a considerable amount of time going out of my way to do something not related to my specific job for a domestic violence victim. No doubt the OP would have thought it was an outrageous waste of time for which i was not employed

Still got a commendation from our divisonal chief superintendant and a letter to the chief constable from my HOD about it. So no, not every employer would be angry at you spending work time doing something not entirely in your JD

Nomorepat - are you going to tell us what was so world-shatteringly important about this letter, that you couldn't wait an extra half an hour for it?

I suspect you won't - because it wasn't actually that life-alteringly vital, and you know you would look like a tit for making such a fuss about it.

Actually, Achycat makes a very interesting point here: everybody is saying IABU because he was changing somebody's tyre; it's an act of kindness and all that. OK.

But what if this his bit-on-the-side? Would you be so forgiving then?
If I had said, 'he was changing the tyre of the woman he is having an affair with'? reactions would have been different, although, of course, in his eyes it would have been an act of kindness to the woman he was having an affair with.

We're all different in what we see as acts of kindness, aren't we? I don't think there's any argument to be had on that issue-we just are.

And this is precisely why Royal Mail wouldn't take kindly to it: every postie carrying out acts of kindness would be doing so at their own subjective reasoning, not royal mail's.

Another aspect that has not been considered here is this:

The reason companies don't take kindly to postie's changing tyres is that he could have injured himself doing so and been unable to deliver the mail at all.

So, the idea that Royal Mail would take kindly to his actions is not true.

OP: AIBU?

Vast Majority: Yes, YABU.

OP: No I'm not!! How dare you!

Vast Majority: Why did you ask then?

One Poster: Actually, YANBU...

OP: Ha! See, IANBU at all

But he wasn't changing the wheel of a woman he was having an affair with so don't try and justify your mean mindedness with a fake scenario, OP.

I really wouldn't care what he realtionship with the person he was helping was. If someone needs help then the KIND thing to do is stop and help them.

And your right, of course royal mail would HATE to see people talking so positvely about their employees wouldn't they.

The reason companies don't take kindly to postie's changing tyres is that he could have injured himself doing so and been unable to deliver the mail at all. well in that case they better wrap them in cotton wool 24/7 hadn't they, make them live in a cupboard when not delivering - although how they could guarantee no injuries just walking who knows.

You really are getting daft now!

400 odd posts and I still don't know what the important letter was about.

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