To think children need to learn to wait their turn?

[BerniceBroadside]

Took dc to a family fun day. Just me as oh working, before anyone says why didn't I double queue. (I wouldn't anyway.)

Queued for face painting. Not too far from the front when two women ahead of me called over five children from the craft table who duly jumped in the queue. Had to wait another 20 minutes. Their father was queuing for them in the santa's grotto queue.

Went to watch the show. Has missed out earlier as it was full so got their early. After they let us in the marquee went straight to front row. Man in front refused to let us sit down as he was saving seats. When to sit in empty seats in row behind, woman was saving seats. Ended up at the back as people had piled in behind us. Called them a bunch of selfish bastards, appreciate was being unreasonable in doing so. I should have just sat down, but dc didn't want to do so as adults had said no.

Queued to see Santa. Bloody woman rang her oh to bring the kids over when near the front. Several other children with an adult also had to shove past to meet their other parent near the front. Said wasn't on, got told wasn't fair to make kids queue for ages. Complained to one if the people running it who did not care a jot.

None were tiny tots and I'd guess all but one were older than dc.

Appreciate some children may be unable to queue due to disabilities, but most can. I dislike queuing, but surely waiting your turn is a skill children need to learn?

And, to rub salt into the wound, dc didn't have time to do craft so now I've had to get the bloody glitter out at home. Glitter! Fucking glitter! Bastards.

Your explanation is perfectly clear, don't worry. Yanbu, I agree with worra, karma will come and bite them in the arse. In the meantime, don't sweat the small stuff too much, im sure your dc had a lovely day all the same.

YANBU. I was on holiday during half term and there was an opportunity to have your photo taken with a character. I queued with DS (5) and a woman was in front holding a toddler. As she got to the front she beckoned over about 7 other children, all of whom looked older than DS. So DS then had to wait for loads more children to get their pictures done when he had been patiently waiting and was really excited. Some people are just rude and selfish.

I know it was a family day out but it still resides of the same cheeky attitude of some people who have no regard for others patiently waiting. like the people who park in baby and child spaces or disabled spaces who think they are immune from codes of conduct and fair play IMO.

YANBU -children need to learn to wait and adults need to stop behaving like entitled cunts

YANBU

suggest ticketed time slots to the organiser

That's a very good idea.

i think the saving seats thing is the cultural norm in this country.Can't really get too excited about a couple of women saving teh space in the queue for their kids either,It didn't make the wait time longer for you than if the kids had been their queuing all the time too.

init- course it did.

People judge queues on length so make judgements on that basis on whether to join it. If every adult in the queue is queueing for 5 children, it's 5 times as long as it appears. Not rocket science

YANBU. There are some really ghastly oiks out there with no manners and it sounds like you've encountered your fair share. I refuse to queue on the grounds that whatever is at the end of the queue is rarely worth it.Obvious exception at airports etc. Last year I did join a queue to see Santa with my six year old and she said she couldn't be bothered to wait. A chip off the old block. .

Init You don't think that an additional five children makes the queue longer?

FFS

OP - your posts are pretty clear to me and others, but..........FFS

We had this at Peppa Pig world. Obviously most of the queues were parents with very small children. A couple right at the front called their 3 primary age children to join them on the dinosaur ride, then each member of the family had a dinosaur of their own (including the dad).

It is very rude and drives me mad.

On holiday once we took a table that had been "saved" with a few coats. It was the only free one in the clubhouse and we'd watched it for 20 mins. The family were beyond outraged when they strolled in an hour later, but after mother had raged at us (and the strangers on the next table who were supposed to be watching it for them ) her teenage girls dragged her away to where the rest of their party were sitting over the other side of the room, apologising profusely.

Did she really think the adults were queuing to have their own faces painted?

AmIthaTinSElly.
Read my post properly!
I said it didn't make any difference to the waiting time whether the 5DC were standing waiting with their mother or playing else where.
Can you not understand English?

I don't think YABU, unfortunately it is a sign of the times.
Many parents are entitled these days and they are raising their dc likewise.
God help us when they grow up.

Yes thanks initgrand, I understand it perfectly well, thanks for the fucking patronising comment

It made a difference to the estimated waiting time. If they had been in the queue the OP would have factored the additional 5 x 4 minutes into her waiting time. They weren't in the queue, there was no indication that an additional five would materialise when their parents reached the front, therefore it was an extra 20 minutes onto the time the OP thought she was waiting

Sorry if that's too complex for you to understand. Most on this thread have managed it though

And at least I can write in English

The OPs erroneous estimated waiting time, not to the actual waiting time.

Yes what difference was there between the mum standing with 5 children and her standing alone?

She and her party were still in front of you! the only difference was you thought that there were only X number of children in front of your child.

..and I don't know how you have the cheek to write about 'patronising comments' can I refer you to yopur post that mine was in response to

'Init You don't think that an additional five children makes the queue longer?

FFS

OP - your posts are pretty clear to me and others, but..........FFS'

YANBU OP. This would drive me mad too. People are so far up their own arses sometimes to see how selfish they're being.

That's not patronising, that's exasperated irritation.

The OP has said that the waiting time she thought she had was extended when these 5 children appeared.

She has already said that it wasn't obvious who was with what child, so wouldn't be obvious that these adults didn't "match up" with the other children in the queue.

As I said, the posts are quite clear, the OP is NBU.

Surely the essence of queuing with a child is managing expectations - "we're nearly there, two more people to go." Etc

YANBU. These people don't want their little darlings to miss out but don't care about anyone elses.

They are the same adults that stand right at the front in Museums and Zoos with their little darlings on their shoulders so the any other children children can't see a thing.

If the Mum has her five children waiting with her at least you know it's going to take forever.

YANBU - i understand why people think it's logical to do it but its not fair on others who can't do the same. If you don't want whiney kids in the queue try and entertain them? get them to learn patience, sometimes you have to wait for good stuff - tough shit. I am with others that this most definately will make a rod for their backs.

As for saving seats, I'd just sit in them. I've been in too many cafes where I've been served and am walking round with a pushchair, toddler, balancing hot drinks and there's no seats and people who have not yet been served sat there. I always ask the waitress to find me a seat and they move them.

I agree with the previous poster who likened it to being in a supermarket queue.

If you have a basket of shopping, you look down the line of checkouts and decide which one has fewest people in (or who has the least shopping)and join it. Then suppose that person calls in three more people, each with a basket of shopping. She's been saving their space. They were still therefore technically in the queue, therefore it hasn't added any extra time in to your wait, even if you couldn't see it and take it into account when making your original decision. So people who don't mind this 'jumping in' in a queue by saving spaces wouldn't have a problem with this. It's not different when it's five children doing the same thing. Maybe you could overlook one child, but five??

Especially as it actually would affect your decision on two counts.

You arrive in the tent (or whatever it was), glance round. The craft table looks full and you can't get to that so you say to your kids "Come on, let's come back to that - let's wait for face painting as that looks empty - we'll come back to the craft afterwards". You wait, occupy your kids, count it down for them, and just as you think you are getting to the front, the five kids who were taking up the space at the craft table run over and get their faces painted without having to wait. So your kids are stopped twice from different things by the same children.

Definitely not unreasonable to be hacked off, OP.