AIBU ... to STILL feel positively evangelical about electronic cigarettes? [thread 2]

[magimedi]

Here we go with thread two.

There is a great deal of information on Thread One about vaping :

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/1865547-to-feel-positively-evangelical-about-electronic-cigarettes?pg=1

I think that many of us have been able to give up smoking thanks to e-cigs & vaping & are all feeling the positive results & want to spread the message.

Help, help please.

Have been doing well since October. But have just bought. Load of eliquid from juice Joose (sp?) but they are all breaking the atomisers as soon as I put them in. I have banana, strawberry and apple pie. He entries two different types of atomisers and they are cracking as soon as I out the liquid in..... What on earth has go e wrong?? And what can I do to stop it?

No problem - let me know if you need any more help.

I do really like the iclear 16s. They're pretty cheap from Fasttech, I've got some replacement coil heads from there too which I can confirm work.

Are all the flavours doing that Gorja? How many clearos have they broken, what clearos are they, how old are they and where are they cracking?

New ones I hd that h5g2 one which were brand new and some othe tones form ebay that weren't rand new and yes it is all the flavours.... I m getting covered in the liquids!!

Weird. Can you see where the liquid is coming from?

Are the clearos all from the same place? Id be more inclined to think theyve been damaged in the post or are a dodgy batch (ive had dodgy coil heads before, shop replaced them).

Sorry just read your last post properly. Ignore me.

allergic I'm not overly bothered with the flavour/vaping kit thing either - just want to finally stop smoking after nearly 24 years.

I had my last cigarette on Fri 20th Dec, relapsed on the Sunday night 2 days later and already found the taste gipping and chucked it away after 3 draws. Have been solely e cig since and am doing it less and less already; me and my husband are using zebra ecigs, I use the menthol flavour and really like it.

You get a good draw and a good amount of 'smoke' for it to be satisfying - even though I didn't smoke menthol normally, I didn't want to use normal tobacco flavour as I wanted it to not be too much the same as actual smoking, but close as poss.

Hope that helps!

And happy New year to everyone too!!

I forgot to say dizzy that you should be really careful with the high nicotine concentrations. My 54mg (or 5.4%) PG gets diluted down to 27mg PG before general mixing usage very carefully and with gloves on because it can be absorbed through the skin and is a poison so can kill you. I don't bother with gloves for the 27mg even though I probably should - I'm still very careful though and would wash my hands straight away if I got any on them. I'm also precise with the initial dilution because a smallish difference then could result in quite a big difference in strength. I do the mixing with VG and the flavouring by eye because it doesn't matter too much to me if I end up with a range of 11-15mg.

Yeah i read about that. I kept having to explain it to OH because he couldn't understand why it wasn't just pure nicotine on that link lol and was getting confused over it being pg/vg based but still needing pg and vg separately as well.

Can someone explain in very simple words how the ohms and the mahs work?

If I'm going to become a proper vaper and build coils and mix my own etc, then I need to understand the battery/atomiser mix. I have read explanations on various sites and it just goes whooooooosh over my head!

I am vaping a liquid from ecig switch. Recommended, he rang me as soon as he saw what I had ordered was out of stock. I'm on peanut butter and really like it!

cantabile MaH is nothing to do with the coil, its simply to do with battery life. The bigger the number the longer the battery will last. It has no bearing on anything else at all to do with the device :)

ohms is how the coils resistence is measured. So the lower the number of ohms, the less power you need to get a decent vape. The higher the number, the more power you need.

Where you have to be careful with ohms is if you're using a variable voltage battery, and you have a low resistence coil (say, 1.8 ohms) you risk just burning it straight out if you turn it up too high (I have done this).

With a higher resistence coil if youre using a fixed voltage battery (A normal standard battery) you run the risk of it basically not being able to pwoer it at all so no vape.

I find with my standard batteries 2.4 - 2,8 ohm coils work fine. 1.8 i have burned out pretty quickly on a normal battery, and ive not burned any out quickly on my ariable voltage batteries either.

A standard battery puts out about 3.7 volts.

Here is a chart that gives you the best voltages for different resistence coils (very good if youre using a variable voltage battery)

thevaperstable.com/wp-content/uploads/Safe-Vaping-Power-Chart1.jpg
You can see how the lower resistence coils run the risk of burning out sooner etc :) I found it very helpful, hope you do too.

Also, batteries naturally drop in output over time. So if you have a standard fixed voltage battery that isnt performing as well as it used to on a 2.4- 2.8 ohm coil, its worth popping it onto a lower resistence to get a bit more use out of it.

Some batteries are really good though and it also depends how well you 'look after' them. A battery will last longest if you only charge it when its empty and you fully charge it. So if youre wanting to prolong the batteries life as long as possible, get two batteries to avoid disturbing them during charges so they charge fully, and only charge after its run down completely and shuts itself off.

My batteries work fantastically even after a few months. The guy who owned the shop was quite shocked as he knew id had it a few months so gave me a lower resistence coil and it just burned the shit out of it completely and when i went back he replaced it with a higher one and said i must look after my batteries as it must still be putting out a decent amount.

My itaste MVP is finally here :)

I'm a bit confused about the variable wattage aspect of it though. Can anyone explain it to me?

Thank you. I think I can make sense of that now. My atomisers are 1.8 I think, so the VV is fine; standard batteries seem to be OK so far. I'm on my second atomiser and I've been using this since October. TBH, I've never put the VV up much higher than 3.8 as it always had a bit of a burnt taste if I did, so now I know why. I have two spare batteries, both 650MaH, so presumably 3.7volts.

I might get some more atomisers of a higher ohm just to see how much difference it makes.

I almost sound like I know what I'm talking about (school was crap about physics, electricity, etc. we were supposed to become naice young laydeez who married men who dealt with all that sort of difficult stuff!).

Yeah you're burning the shite out of a 1.8 if you go much over 3.8 v lol.
the iClear 16 and iClear 30 b are my favourites to use with VV at the moment.

Queen - The wattage, i'm not sure i fully understand myself. I just set the volts to what my battery suggests and then play with the watts till it tastes the best lol. OH might be able to explain a bit better when he gets in.

Happy new year everyone!

I have the mvp but haven't done anything with the VW yet, just sticking with VV as I know what I'm doing with that. I understand it theoretically - the battery reads the resistance (ohms) of your atomiser and then works out how many volts to put through it to give the required wattage (the numbers in the squares on the chart Dizzy linked to) so it should be simpler because you don't have to pay any attention to the resistance of your coil.

I am really not getting on with my iclear 30 (it's the top coiled one, not the iclear 30b that you have Dizzy) - it's a really tight draw and gurgles like fuck. Having taken it to bits a few times, it seems the problem is condensation in the swivelly drip tip, dripping down into the tiny hole in the silicon cap above the coils. It's also another metal drip tip which I'm not keen on. DH wants to give it a try, if he gets on no better with it, I'll be offering it on here.

Meanwhile, I'm trying a GS-H5C I got from fasttech. So far, so good it's a much airier draw than the GS-H5 which has a different bottom bit on it.

Gorja sorry you're having such a shit time. That does sound like the liquids are reacting. I have tried apple pie out of the ones you mention and haven't had any problems but I know the list of liquids that react is wide and varied (I think I've seen banana mentioned a couple of times as a problem one). Maybe joose juice have changed their ingredients? It might be worth getting in touch with them and asking if these are flavours that are known to cause problems. Long term, the only way to ensure you don't run into this problem is to get non-plastic atomisers (unless you want to just stick to liquids you know are safe).

Yes plenty! Thats it, i couldnt get it out to explain it but im pretty sure that explanation is spot on.

I havent had any problems like that with i iclear 16 (I got one with the battery) i quite like it, mines not got a metal drip tip though. I did flood it with one liquid by accident but it resolved itself nicely and stopped gurgling pretty quickly.

It is a tighter draw but i like a tighter draw so thats not a problem for me :)

Yes, I have the iclear 16 and love it (for a top coil - I'm not great at all that keeping-it-the-right-way-up business ).

I am warming to the butterscotch flavour mmmm

I also love the iclear 16s. I've not found them leaky at all and the atomisers last forever. I've not even found them to use much liquid - my test with one clearo and one liquid for a week was with an iclear 16 and I only used 20ml - maybe they're more satisfying so you don't vape as much. I've not tried the 30 that came with the itaste yet because I can't decide what to put in it.

Have you had any trouble with the itaste not working with GSH2s Plenty? Some of them just don't register or claim to have 0ohms resistance but they work with other batteries - could the contact bit in the clearo need unscrewing a bit? I assume anticlockwise is the right way?

I alternate between gingerbread - nice and warming for the evening - and apple - fresher and sweeter for day time. Never thought I'd have special flavours for times of day.

Still got lots of Xmas flavours hanging about. I shall be trying more alchemy.

I've got loads of fruity ones and only really Bailey's and Cookie in terms of non fruity. I've got a million clearos so just switch when I'm getting bored of one flavour. I think I'm going to order some apple pie, cheesecake and ginger bread from joose juice.

Thank you for your help, sorry had to go to work last night so didn't get time to reply. Have switched to grape which seems ok. Have ordered some more liquids from a different supplier so will see what happens.

Can't get on with the apple pie flavour tastes like sweaty armpits to me!