To be sick of not being able to afford the heating on

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Thankfully no children involved.

We are yet to have any form of heating on this autumn/winter as we just cannot afford the bill. We only have central heating, no fire. I'm currently sat in a t-shirt, thick jumper, dressing gown, jeans, 2 pairs of socks, and slippers and I've got a hot water bottle and I'm frozen. The thought of another 4 months of this makes me want to cry.

The thing about the 15% rate is that many people were paying that on their £50,000 mortgage. Now people apparently have it easy to only pay 5% on their £150,000 mortgage.

Waving an interest rate around in isolation is meaningless.

I'm freezing now, & it's nowhere near evening yet - doesn't bode well! I've got to go up the loft this morning - that really is freezing. I'm going to need to have the heating on a bit, after a bath, else it's just too cold to get out. But every minute it's on, I can feel money ticking away like a taxi meter

In winter, I don't mind the fact that my child still likes to crawl into my bed!

I think there is a problem is rented accommodation that what is cheapest for the LL is often not cheapest for the tenant which if they are reliant on benefits, increases their requirements from the state.

we need to raise the standard of insulation and heating in new houses and ensure that in rented properties, when old heating needs replacing, it must be replaced with more efficient systems (companies already have this obligation).

NB: I don't think there is anything wrong with needing to wear warm clothes in the house to be warm in winter. and there is nothing wrong with a blanket on you if you are sitting down for sometime.

True that's an incredibly sad and eye opening link. Thank you.

they still wouldn't have anything to do with this discussion

but you don't get to police what other posters think is relevant to the discussion.

"Or that a few million years back she'd have been a chimp"

And I can get to tell people they should focus on reasoned factual debate rather than attacking others on an individual basis and resorting to foul language and insult when you disagree.

Now I shall not be responding to any more abuse except to say that we live in a democracy; this is a public forum and everyone is entitled to their opinions. At no point have I said anybody deserves or should be cold because I'm not that kind. Nor have I told anyone thet should be ashamed of themselves.

Interestingly MNet doesn't appear to think my posts so disgusting they have been deleted but based on responses here I'm sure I would have been deleted, especially for being so F'ing disgusting. Then again that isn't the sort of language I chose to use.

You can be offensive and rude without actually swearing, so don't focus on the fact you didn't swear married, focus on the fact you upset and offended people with what you've said.

Good post Married. There is really no need for the abuse you are getting based on what is nothing more than a difference of opinion.

Get a grip people. Do you really think its reasonable to get so over excited when you encounter someone who disagrees with you?

MNHQ seems not to share that view valium.

I'd rather see personal attacks than ill-informed goady sweeping generalisations about poor people being pissheads who should be grateful that they are not Victorian orphans.

I agree wallison.

Or posters pondering on how the world would be marvellous if everyone was just like them.

I believe landlords are to be expected to get all (or at least attempt) rented properties to a band d or higher in the next few years.

Marriedinwhite I know you tend to assume otherwise but I doubt you're the only wealthy Tory lurking these forums. Your posts are unique not for their underlying thesis, but rather for their utter lack of compassion or humility in the face of an OP who's just cold.

I remember how could it could be when we lived in rented accomodation but at least gas and electricity was cheaper then. I think that more should be done to make landlords add double glazing and improve insulation in their properties as it makes so much difference. Our house is well insulated and we now only have our heating on for a couple of hours in the evening; it stays reasonable warm for quite a few hours after the heating has gone off.

"cold" not "could"

Some of you are just ganging up on married because you dont like what she thinks.

You think calling her names will shut her up. Maybe you will but you have not convinced her of anything. You have just bullied her on MN. I am sure you have impressed yourselves but that's it.

Yes, God forbid that anyone should pose a strong answer to utterly repellent and reprehensible views.

Sorry op you having bad time.

we concious of heating too its timed.

miss having a gas fire sit electric heater in lounge rubbish.

our patio doors i recon not air tight either.
we have central heating but scottish power just gone up spending £130 a on dual fuel.

I have lived in flats with night storage in past and meter and then been really paranoid how fast it goes but think energy ore expensive than was 10years ago.

My coping stategies

warm pjs/onsies-priark
old fashioned I know but thermal vests.
i have tv in bedroom and snuggle uo wit hot water bottle thick duvet and fleece when really cold.

My nan and aunt lived in houses with no central heating

I remember they had gas fire
lived mainly in one room in the house
electric blankets and hot water bottles.

its meant to get really cold next week so make sure you ready for it.

akes me mad companies being so greedy and wealthy pensioners get help whilst others freeze.

I think the energy companies do have social tarriffs so maybe worth giving the a call see if they can do anything.

Wallison, you are not addressing her arguments. Like I said impressing yourselves but wasting your time. Mind you whatevers important to you!

We have gaffa taped up all the window seals and the back door. It definitely made a difference.
It's so bleak being cold.
I'm freelance and work was really slow for a few months so I sold stuff & clothes I never used on eBay.
Take care.