To find this disturbing for a number of reasons....

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Photograph, posted on Facebook (and, therefore, in my eyes, endorsed) by a teacher of a group of people dressed up for Halloween. One person, "blacked up" (face mask, brownish make up on neck etc) one person "whitened up" (face mask, White make up) and a third person, also made up but in a brown colour. "Black man" wearing track suit, trainers and lots and lots of jewellery. "White woman" in curlers, Primark hoodie, track suit bottoms, heels. "Brown person" (an adult) in a child's buggy with a bottle, dummy and carrying what looks like a lunch box.

AIBU to think that this is racist and stereotyping of the worst kind. That they are dressed as a mixed race "chav" (not a word I would use but...) low income family who bottle feeds their baby, dresses badly and pushes a very old child around, who are all overweight etc.

Now I know these people. The area we live in is NOT at all multi cultural so there is unlikely to have been anyone offended at the party. But I am offended.

FWIW at least one of these people works with children on a daily basis.

Mumsnet, over to you.

I don't think that it is worldwide dictated what i do or don't find racist or humorous thats a ridiculous thing to suggest.

Heartbroken I am not selectively racist. Previous post whether you liked it or not has nothing to do this this one. Influx of immigrants (at this point in time in our country) as nothing to do with blacking up and costumes. You know what I am talking about. You are just goading

And you and Taffleee are doing what by denying racism exactly?

And also, who called you a cunt (about the 8th time I've asked).

heartbroken quite right too. I am not alone in thinking I was correct in being totally fucked off.

Gosh, two people agree with you. Well, therefore you must be right?

Who called you a cunt?

heartbroken what the hell do you want us to do about racism as a whole. What are you doing about it. Because im sure whatever we do it will always be there. Unfortunately.

cjel

So you think that the vast majority of people worldwide still find blacking up acceptable do you? And that the majority of posters on this thread (and it is a large majority) are wrong too?

Well, I'm challenging it wherever I find it? Such as here.

What are you doing about it, apart from blacking up and defending it as a bit of fun?

Funny how no one has answered my post about the oranged up Egyptian in the panto I saw. Would be interested to know

No I don't , but I also don't think that you can say it is something that has been agreed worldwide and therefore something that everyone agrees to. there are huge areas for the world where it isn't agreed so its a crazy claim to make.

. Is this forum not supposed to be about debate and opinion? Mylovelyboy has dared to voice hers, and she has been ganged up on and bullied, whilst not actually saying anything other than her own opinion.
Have to say she's done rather well, not lowering herself to anothere posters level.

IMO, this is all a bit silly. When you go to a fancy dress party, you dress up as that person. That's the point isn't it?

Funny that you haven't the question you've been asked about a dozen times: who called you a cunt? Also funny that you're the only one who's been deleted (multiple times) on this thread.

Also would challenge the idea that the vast majority of people worldwide would even know what you were talking about.

If you voice opinions that are racist and offensive, you can expect to be called on it, arethereanyleftatall. That's not bullying.

Re the "Jackson 5" thing. If a group of people dressed as the Jackson 5, ie recognisable stage costume and singing their songs etc then not offensive (IMO), but just blacking up, putting on an afro and saying that's the Jackson 5 - I would say this is more likely to cause offense as it is the generalising stereotype at play there.

As KepekCrumbs said a wee bit further up, it is also important to separate intent and perception - it doesn't matter if your intention was not to offend, what matters is how another perceives it.

As a generalisation I would say that few people are offended by depictions of specific celeb costumes (even if this involves 'blacking up'), but many are offended by generic 'group' depictions (including the "Japanese woman/Arab suicide bomber/Black & White Minstrels" type of thing) and as such it is in poor taste to do this sort of thing.

(Hope that makes sense!)

cjel it's unacceptable in the UK, which I think is where the OP is.

Yes, arethereanyleftatall - she's done a bangup job of showing her true colours and calling people cunts. Wonderful job she's done, wouldn't you say.

And please name who this 'other poster' is (I think I already know).

And no, you don't black up your face - it's offensive.

I know that but heartbroken was claiming someone was ignorant because the whole world knew it was wrong

It's ok, mylovelyboy doesn't believe in bullying anyway. Just some people are oversensitive, right?

janine as people on here have said. I have never said anything racist. The only times my posts have been deleted is because some people on here are only interested in their own opinions and cannot obviously deal with a debate unless what is being said suits their ears.

Cjel - are you denying civil rights marches in the USA? The inquest into the murder of Stephen Lawrence here?

Or just the fact that the vast majority of posters on this thread (and the one on immigration) alone are disagreeing with blacking up being racist?

Nope, mylovelyboy, it's been pointed out to you already which of your posts were offensive. An your posts have been deleted because MNHQ considered that they broke the guidelines. Nothing to do with other people's 'sensitivities'.

MN doesn't delete posts for being disagreeable, mylovelyboy, they delete them for being goady or for being personal attacks.

So which did yours fall into?

And please - who called you a cunt?

areth thank you
Heartbroken I dont feel bullied or sensitive about being bashed on this post. Got much thicker skin than that. I am more than happy to carry on fighting my corner without the need to wither in a corner and cry 'Im being bullied'. I'm made of tougher stuff than that

Heartbroken - what are you on about? I was just challenging your sweeping generalisation that the whole world knew it was offensive to black up. I'm going now- you are just daft bringing in some marches in one country and one uk racist murder - how does that back up your claim that the whole world knows that putting coloured make up on your face is wrong?