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to wonder how good heroin must feel

378 replies

complexnumber · 07/11/2013 19:26

I've tried lots of recreational drugs over the years, but never heroin
But what is it about the 'hit' heroin gives you that makes you want it again... and again...

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Mumofalittlegirl · 07/11/2013 23:35

Counselling can also be an effective pain management treatment btw. Teaching coping strategies through CBT and other behavioural therapies can substitute chemical dependencies

Strumpetron · 07/11/2013 23:37

dahlen I think for some people you're right, complementary for a bit of 'back up' if you will.

Personally I think in the worst case scenario people try everything they can, just have to see what works for them. Counselling can be quite intrusive for some people, it was for me anyway. But I've known people who it's worked wonders for. Both sides of the coin.

justmyview · 07/11/2013 23:43

I've heard that a surprisingly high number of "illicit drugs" seized by the police contain no illegal content. Lots of talcum powder etc ..... very frightening

DoubleLifeIsALifeOfSorts · 08/11/2013 00:06

Councelling can only do so much and as part of a pain management plan can be very useful, but is often offered as a panacea instead of appropriate drugs which invert unfortuneate ... It's easy to dismiss pain in other people and I think more effort needs taking to try and understand it as a whole.

Mumofalittlegirl · 08/11/2013 07:30

Mmm I don't know. I personally don't think drugs are the way forwards with any type of pain (physical or emotional) and personally think that people need to be taught coping techniques over a pitiful pat on the head and a 'yes dear you're in pain have some drugs now sit and wallow in it'

The mind is a very very powerful instrument and I truly don't understand why it's not seen as good practice to give MH treatments along side any/all chronic ailments, including addiction

fledtoscotland · 08/11/2013 07:33

Heroin is diamorphine not morphine sulphate which is normally given in hospital. Diamorphine is a horrible drug but used in obstetrics as it's very effective but is metabolised quickly. I've had it once and found it made me feel very unwell - shaking, blood pressure in my boots, vomited, eventually passed out. I cannot imagine taking it for fun

Geckos48 · 08/11/2013 07:33

There are lots of high functioning addicts. A remarkable amount of doctors are addicts of something or other!

IndiansInTheFuckerLobby · 08/11/2013 07:44

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Geckos48 · 08/11/2013 07:47

I've given up most drugs. I would recreationally take MDMA in the future though that's looking unlikely because it is impossible to find.

I would take acid again (in a heartbeat) and the only drug I would suggest everybody take... Is DMT.

Shonajoy · 08/11/2013 07:50

I had it after extensive cancer surgery, it made me feel high and happy, but also very nauseous. Apparently the high and happy feeling is the one chased, but when you're addicted it's harder and harder to get that feeling so you need more and more. And eventually you're just taking it to feel normal.

heartisaspade · 08/11/2013 07:56

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Strumpetron · 08/11/2013 08:15

I've given up most drugs. I would recreationally take MDMA in the future though that's looking unlikely because it is impossible to find

Oh Christ is it bad to say I could get you some within 20 mins? Confused not an offer by the way journalists/MNHQ I was just saying! It's rife around here.

chrome100 · 08/11/2013 08:28

Many drugs are only good the first time. I occasionally go out and take pills (should have name changed, hey I don't have kids). The first time I ever took them was AWESOME. I have never felt so....wonderful. I look back to it with great fondness. Thereafter, I've felt good and enjoyed myself but nothing like that first time. I imagine that is what it's like with heroin, always chasing that first high.

MuffCakes · 08/11/2013 08:29

Strump I think officially its offering to be a drug dealer Grin

Geckos48 · 08/11/2013 08:34

Is it proper MDMA though strump or is it that pma/mad/mdf shite?

Crowler · 08/11/2013 08:34

Strumpetron Wink
LOL

Shonajoy hope things are looking up for you. When the morphine makes you sick in the course of cancer treatment, can't they sort that out with the anti-nausea thingys?

Geckos48 · 08/11/2013 08:35

I once straddled a board of MDF and offered to sell it to people at tribe of frog... Good times.

whois · 08/11/2013 08:49

Is it proper MDMA though strump or is it that pma/mad/mdf shite?

Highly unlikely to be decent quality MDMA, absolutely gold dust. However very easy to buy something called MDMA!

PP mentioned still getting a rush when they heard a particular song - I get that too occasionally and love it. Very strange the way out brains can act.

Geckos48 why DMT?

CleverClod · 08/11/2013 08:53

I've gotten to page two of this thread and given up reading. I'm totally gobsmacked that people even think about trying drugs. I really just don't get the mindset.

I had morphine a few years ago when I wrenched my back, it was awful stuff, did nowt for me and made me dizzy and sick for about two days afterwards.

Tuhlulah · 08/11/2013 09:02

I've always been too scared to take anything, I worry about losing control. Have to be in agony to take a paracetamol. Don't drink alcohol.

That being said, I had an epidural during very horrible and complicated labour, and it was the first time in my life I have ever felt RELAXED. Makes me wonder if I am tense all the time and this was my first experience of being relaxed, or if this 'relaxed' was special. I don't know what drugs were in the epidural, not morphine I guess. I commented on how lovely it felt and the midwife did look a bit confused and told me it shouldn't have that effect at all. Whatever. I know what I felt.

Had pethadine for post-op bone pain, effective but no special feelings.

SconeForAStroll · 08/11/2013 10:04

Had pethadine while in labour with dd - gave me the shakes and a seemingly limitless supply of vomit.

Oramorph was ok for pain but no euphoria.

Diazepam when I first had them made me v.sleepy but fine now. Help with pain a bit.

Tramadol. Horrid. Sick whirly feeling and can feel the addictive power of them. And the withdrawal! Christ. I had to take one last week. Just one. The following day I could feel my body calling out for more, and since I didn't I have had full withdrawal - terrible terrible headaches, nausea, night sweats, insomnia.

I would much rather just be a bit drunk. Wine

Geckos48 · 08/11/2013 10:53

DMT is very quick, 20minutes tops, you smoke it and then every atom in the universe shows you how it is constructed and how perfectly in tune you are with it. It's like being give a cosmic hug from every single particle on the planet. Amazing! And over quickly for those who don't like it.

Geckos48 · 08/11/2013 10:54

If you take a tramadol and then 30mins later take another one, it does something different in your body and makes you trip out.

Mignonette · 08/11/2013 11:02

Gecko

I once developed a theory that predated Higgs by thirty years. I also walked down to the riverside dressed only in a plastic pink rainjacket whilst scrubbing my teeth with a toothbrush.

I have forgotten the theory but not the toots from various amazed (and delighted) male car drivers Grin

All on acid. Fun days.

Crowler · 08/11/2013 11:06

Mignonette Smile