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....to think that when you invite people to visit, you should give them dinner?

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Financeprincess · 05/11/2013 18:29

DH and I have just returned from a visit to his aunt's house, 300 miles away. She asked us to visit. She's in her sixties, widowed, but young and active. She lives in a house with no mortgage that she's just accepted an offer of £650k on, and has a generous pension to live on.

That sets the financial scene. My problem with her is that she always expects me and DH to pay for everything and it drives me mad.

When she visits us, and she tends to invite herself, she always wants to go out for dinner and drinks, and expects us to pay. This summer, she came for a week and we gave her dinner - cooked or paid for by us - every night, plus nice lunches and plenty of wine etc. and she never even offered to pay for coffees in a cafe.

However, when we visit her, she never reciprocates. She expects us to take her out to a restaurant, presumably to thank her for her hospitality (although she invites us and we go to please her...she's a nice woman, but it's quite an undertaking visiting her, plus she keeps her house bl**dy freezing, so it's not very comfortable).

We've just returned from one such visit. We were only staying one night, but she'd booked a restaurant and had decided that we'd be going for cocktails first. At the bar, we ordered (the aunt is the 'hang back at the bar' type), then when the bartender told us how much the round was she started fumbling around for pound coins and saying, "How much will mine be?", so to save embarrassment we just paid (£25 for three cocktails). I thought, surely she'll pay for dinner? However, after we'd eaten, she said, "how much is mine?". Not only that, we had a discount voucher for the restaurant - Loch Fyne, to give you an idea of price - and she insisted on seeing the calculations, even though my husband said that it would be about £40. I'd told him before that on no account were we paying for his aunt again, and that we should let her pay, which he accepted reluctantly. Her share was more than £40, but she said that she'd just put £40 on her card, AND she let us leave the tip!!

I was really annoyed, although I couldn't show it. I've started thinking of her as Aunt Sponge (James and the Giant Peach, if you don't get the reference!) because I think she's a shameless sponger. She clearly expected us to pay for her, and didn't seem able to contemplate actually paying for our dinner for once.

It's putting me off visiting her again. Just to reiterate, she is not at all short of money. She's about to downsize, releasing £250k, and was boasting about the £30k kitchens she's been looking at for the new house. She also goes on lots of lavish holidays.

Am I being unreasonable to think that this woman is simply tight?? I wouldn't dream of asking somebody to travel hundreds of miles to visit me then expecting them to pay for their own dinner, let alone mine too!

OP posts:
Voerendaal · 05/11/2013 18:33

Those kind of people can always afford fab holidays because they are so tight. I would be p**d off too. Do not invite her again.

RudolphLovesoftplay · 05/11/2013 18:34

Sounds awkward. Before you visit, you may need to be crystal clear and say "sorry aunt sponge, but we can't afford to eat out this time, could we get fish n chips instead?" That way she doesn't have to cook, but it's nowhere near as expensive.

RudolphLovesoftplay · 05/11/2013 18:35

And when she visits you, just don't go out!!

CrohnicallyTired · 05/11/2013 18:35

YANBU. Either the host pays as part of the hosting, or the guests pay to thank for the hosting, she can't have it one way at yours and the other at hers.

I would say something like, we'd love to have you visit but money's a bit tight at the moment, so we can't afford to take you out to eat. She'll either come anyway and you can cook budget meals, or she'll decline the invite, or she'll come and treat you all to a meal. If she comes (or you visit her) and she invites you for a meal, reiterate that you cannot afford to pay and check that she is happy to pay before you leave, then you have the option of declining the invite and cooking for yourselves.

Brucietheshark · 05/11/2013 18:37

Yy agree the tight ones always have money. Not surprising really!

DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 05/11/2013 18:39

Maybe she will cook you a meal in her new £30K kitchen.

I don't know OP maybe it is a generational thing, she expects to be treated like the Honoured Guest and feted when you come to pay homage visit? Perhaps she is a lonely lady who likes to be fussed over and simply misses company.

I think you have to either laugh or cry. Perhaps next time if there is one you can play a sort of Bingo. DH might be black and blue by the time the visit's over but kick each other under the table every time she fumbles for her purse or selects something pricey.

It's nice of you to go when it's so infuriating. Don't do so in the hope she'll eventually bequeath you a tidy sum, it will probably all go to a good cause. You must bring her some pleasure so for a few times a year it's a kind thing to do.

tallulah · 05/11/2013 18:46

oh dear, I was about to start a similar thread about my DM. She insists on coming with us everywhere we go, and when we get to the pay desk she takes a step backwards. Like your aunt, she has more disposable income than we do. Don't know what the answer is but I do sympathise.

Financeprincess · 05/11/2013 18:46

Thanks ladies. Glad it's not just me! Love the suggestions, cheers.

Think you are on to something with the generational thing. She used to let her husband do everything for her and has got used to being fussed over. Mind you, it's very convenient to be like that, when you're a tightwad, isn't it??

No dice with the legacy sadly....she has two sons (joking - we don't visit her for that reason!)

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pointyfangs · 05/11/2013 18:46

I'd be providing her with Value Everything when she comes over, and making sure she sees the label. But then I'm vicious.

I don't expect people who are less well off than we are to provide lavishly, it's about seeing my friends/family after all. We also always bring wine and chocs or baked goods. But unless the invitation is explicitly for tea or something like that, I'd expect to be fed, especially if I'd come a lot of miles.

DH and I always cook simple, tasty meals for people who come to visit - not 'Come Dine With Me' stuff, because I don't want to spend hours in the kitchen when I could be drinking wine chatting with my visitors. We wouldn't dream of taking them out and then having them pay for our meals! Shock

kerala · 05/11/2013 18:47

Ooh annoying can see why you are riled. My ILs can be abit like this. When we visit places with them (zoos/attractions) either at our house or theirs when the time comes to pay they just stand there like lemons so DH pays for them. Really annoys me somehow. Wouldnt mind if they were sparkling company but they do not sing for their supper and just trail after us with long faces.

Financeprincess · 05/11/2013 18:50

You have all really cheered me up!

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Fakebook · 05/11/2013 18:51

I don't think it's a generation thing. I have a relative like this who always shows off how he earns 1K a day for 4 weeks when he's at work. He works 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off.

Unfortunately he's a tight arse and expects everyone to feed him and pay for everything when he visits. If you don't put the right meat and enough food on the table for him he will make snide comments about how expensive food is these days or how embarrassing it is that his relatives can't put proper food on the table for him and his wife Hmm.

This man owns a ferarri and wears Versace suits and holidays in the most exotic locations. He's never invited us to his house or paid for anything when he visits. He's just greedy and self absorbed. I think money makes you greedy for more so you try to contain it.

Best to keep your distance from these types but seeing as you think this Aunt is nice to get along with, then just carry on making her pay for herself. When she says how much is hers, just tell her. She has to learn that you're not made of money.

MrsOakenshield · 05/11/2013 18:56

next time, grab the bill, work out what yours and DH's share is, get that put on your card and leave her to pay the rest 'oh, and you won't mind adding the tip, will you - great!'.

I don't think it's a generational thing. FIL always pays for us when we visit, and quite often when he visits us, but he is minted, and we do buy for him every so often and always bring wine with us to his. My mum is more of a 50/50 person - she is also minted, but she does do very generous birthday and Christmas presents, specially for the GC, so it all balances out!

Topseyt · 05/11/2013 18:58

She has a nerve, and does sound like rather a tightwad.

If you are expecting visitors, especially ones who have made a big effort and travelled a long distance to visit, you expect to be providing food and drink. Arrangements can be agreed in advance for meals out. For me, if they are out guests we would offer to pay. Other arrangements can be that the bill is split 50/50, with turns taken for buying rounds of drinks. It is courtesy.

It is presumptious of her to assume when you go to hers that you will always be paying. If she was a good hostess she would at least offer to pay, not hang back at the bar or till and just want to pay for her own portion.

Corygal · 05/11/2013 19:03

She's greedy. And mean. Not a great combo. Don't spend anything on her, and make that an active policy when you next see her.

Lilacroses · 05/11/2013 19:04

Oh no it's not just you OP! We have an older relative who behaves very similarly and it is extremely grating and very rude on their part. It spoils the time we spend with him because, after several years of this, we are always anticipating his meanness and worry about how to respond. We have started to be pretty darn blunt with him to be honest which makes us feel really rude, it's a fairly constant refrain in our life to be honest!

Inertia · 05/11/2013 19:05

Stop taking her out to restaurants!

If she visits, provide your normal dinners; if you visit her, offer to call in at the chip shop or eat on your way there. Just tell her you can't afford expensive restaurants and cocktails.

Retroformica · 05/11/2013 19:06

I wouldn't mention her paying, however I would mention a couple of times that you are on an economy drive and not eat out at all. Cancel any restaurants that have been arranged and opt for fish and chips in for ease at hers. At yours simply home cook and only have coffees out.

I think she just expects to be looked after bring older and a woman.

pigletmania · 05/11/2013 19:10

Yanbu at all, dont invite her. If you do, mak sure you cook the cheapestvenstuff you can find lol. Fakebook I woud not have this tight arse round, no is a complete answer

LouiseAderyn · 05/11/2013 19:10

I would stop seeing her - she is taking the piss and you are letting her! I wouldn't make excuses for her - she is just tight.

PukingCat · 05/11/2013 19:11

And that's how people like that get rich.

neunundneunzigluftballons · 05/11/2013 19:13

I would suggest always splitting bills with her.

FunkyBoldRibena · 05/11/2013 19:19

You both need to leave your wallets at hers once in a while. Or when she books it say 'we really can't afford it, how about somewhere a little cheaper?'

HaPPy8 · 05/11/2013 19:40

She does sound a bit thoughtless, but, is it that when you 'treat' her you are feeding one extra, but for her to reciprocate its kind of two extras if you know what i mean? (more if you have children). I would expect the couple to pay 2/3rds of the time to make it fairer.

starfishmummy · 05/11/2013 19:47

Ask for separate bills.
Or when she fumbles or change, just let her

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