Animals vs humans round 2

[livingzuid]

I was enjoying our previous debate started by Fifi. Not sure if we were done!

AIBU to think if faced with choosing a pet over a human (even if a stranger), you should choose the human?

The idea was brought up in another thread and put in life or death situation. Building on fire contains your pet and a stranger. You could only save one, who would it be?

I had a dog, Ralph, I cried my heart out when he died 3 years ago. The only dog I wasn't scared of! But I can't imagine leaving a person to die instead, no matter how my heart would break.

LOL at piano you know this is hypothetical! Whereas some people actually were disablist over a hypothetical situation!!!!! Pathetic.

Your posts read as though you are inferring Everlong has been disablist Candy.

There is no need to be unnecessarily rude.

Don't think either POV is wrong, and TBH I'm not 100% certain what I'd do. I don't have any pets any more but when I did do I'm honestly not certain what I'd do in this scenario (assuming standard adult stranger). When I was a teen I went onto frozen ice to retrieve my dog who had got himself stuck, and I didn't even think about it. It was just instinct to go and get him. Admittedly this was a reasonably shallow pond so any chance of serious injury if the ice cracked was pretty low but I still put myself in danger to save him.

Acting purely on emotion and instinct I suspect I would go to my dog, though I'm not sure and completely torn thinking about it as a hypothetical. Maybe I'd be the idiot who got themselves trapped as well because I took to long to decide!

Neither POV seems that unusual, reading this it seems over 40% would save their dog in some circumstances so there are clearly a huge number of people that don't see it as a black or white question.
www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animals-and-us/201306/would-you-save-puppy-or-child-burning-building

I was speaking generally and I said on the other thread. Please point out where I have directly accused??

No one was disablist.

You can still have a real opinion about a hypothetical situation. And that opinion can still be vile to others.

I don't give a flying monkeys what any of you would do in a hypothetical situation. I care that some people were disablist.

Piano -- some people were disablist on the prev thread

I actually think a lot of people saying they would save the pet are probably not being serious. There's only a few I think who are :)

I never said you were! You're extrapolating! I was commenting that some people cannot debate without resorting to that!!!!

Candy - no they weren't

I'm off to bed but just saying; I am fully aware that everlong did not say anything disablist. Sorry if anyone wants to read my words like that but really, I know it was not her and would never stoop so low as to lie on a forum!

Unless something got deleted I didn't see.

Still at it?
Again, the pro human side need to explain why.

Well this wasn't meant to get nasty. How am I not decent because I would choose a dog I consider to be a member of my family over some stranger who I have no emotional connection to? In a hypothetical discussion? At no point has anyone explained the superiority of why strange human is so much more important than a pet. People rush into burning buildings to save wedding albums! I'm selfish which is a fundamental human trait and all you who sound so noble are no different. We would all go with saving what meant the most to us in a moment of crisis as described by the original op. For me thats my dog over a stranger any day. As several said in the last thread you'd in reality be interested in getting yourself the hell out without thinking of any stranger at all. Kids and/or the dog/cat/rabbit/whatever but certainly not strangers. Having been in a fire at uni halls we all just wanted out as fast as possible!

I can't fathom why human life is so much more important than anything else. A human life I cared about yes. Not just any human though. But if you think that is wrong well that's cool. I won't insult you for not agreeing with me.

You are welcome to your opinion and to debate mine but please without snide comments and the fact you think you're better than me or the other animal savers on the thread as that is how it comes across. There is simply no need for the language I'm seeing. And.... It's NOT REAL...

My doggie is lovely.

Candy was talking generally.

My dog cries if i go in a shop. She has hysterics if I go swimming and sobs her heart out if I go on a swing.
If you find a human who ares as much about me, I'll care about them

I just think that saying you'd save a stranger is silly because you have no idea, unless you've ever actually been in a burning building. I have been in a fire, it was fucking terrifying. You don't think rationally when you feel your life is in danger, so probab best to stop saying you'd definitely save x or y because you don't know. This is partly why I was upset.

Really going now....

candy

Hypothetically I'd save the stranger.

In reality I'd probably panic,trip over something and end up dead.

But hypothetically my heart is in the right place.

Just read the psychology today article, can't believe my randomly thought up idea has been studied!