Animals vs humans round 2

[livingzuid]

I was enjoying our previous debate started by Fifi. Not sure if we were done!

AIBU to think if faced with choosing a pet over a human (even if a stranger), you should choose the human?

The idea was brought up in another thread and put in life or death situation. Building on fire contains your pet and a stranger. You could only save one, who would it be?

I had a dog, Ralph, I cried my heart out when he died 3 years ago. The only dog I wasn't scared of! But I can't imagine leaving a person to die instead, no matter how my heart would break.

No not patronising. I was asked a question. I answered. Perhaps a bit more curtly than intended.

Either say something or don't Toys. I have taken the time to research & comment. Those really interested will either take the time to read or not. I don't see why I should spend my time summarises for them. If that makes me lazy, ok. Surely as an academic you can skim read? Why are you winking at me?

Merry: Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks to me like you have "taken time" to google and copy + paste a ton of text without even pruning and tidying it up

You should spend time to summarise, because if everyone did what you do this thread would be as long as the earth's circumference and very few people would have time and inclination to read it all (although then you, and your fellow "wall of words" posters would probably feel like you'd "won" with your arguments, as everyone else had given up on reading everything). You can always provide citations/ links on request.

I'm striking the text over and winking to soften the message.I realise it is a tad passive aggressive. Sorry about that. I know it is a particular fault of mine..

Surely as an academic you can skim read? Why are you winking at me?

sorry merrygo for some reason that just made me burst out laughing! Not in a nasty way - I just read it with a bossy teacher voice in my head

Toys..... focus. The information has been provided. An answer to a question about it has been given. Your last sentence reveals you are not at all sorry about your passive aggressivenes. So apology not accepted. I refuse to be further sidelined by you. Goodnight to you.

Piano...... I'm pleased you found that funny - reading it back I can see what you mean! lol

Merry: I don't understand what you mean by answer being provided? Did you google and copy/paste? Is that what you meant?

I feel as if you are not ready to engage with anyone who disagrees with you, so I guess you can ignore whoever you want. Your right absolutely. And yes, I am not really sorry - I am just doing my sorry face. But, then again, you are not sorry for being patronising, either.

Is it conga time for me now, as well? It is a bit stuffy here, what with all these the walls of text with no gaps in them

Da, da, da, daaa..

I'm too pregnant and full of biscuits to conga.

I'll just waddle off to bed to the tune of Baby Elephant Walk

Hello! Late to the party and piiiiiiissed (first vino in 2 months and oh God, but it's so nice)

So anyway, that massive 'wall of text' hardly takes into account the cats that sit licking their bums and sneering every time they see one of us dear humans tripping head over heels.

And why is there always a sniggering cat watching when I fall over anyway, eh, eh, eh????

Dumb animals only like humans cos we feed them. Go on, fall over and don't be able to feed them for a few days. They'll eat you, they will you know.

You do know humans do exactly the same as you have just described dont you? Even the eating of other humans when stuck in the middle of no where with nothing else to eat?

Ok, humans itch their bums rather than lick them, or maybe some do manage to lick them ha ha!

And the cats spend all their time just waiting for the humans who believe themselves to be superior to make tits of themselves.

It's a well known fact that cats are just biding their time before they take over the world. ;-)

Oh my god!!! If someone could fill me in in bullet point format (fewer than 200 words preferably) THAT would be awesome! What's with all the copied and pasted text? Annoying as f**k

Ok,I think Merry was pointing out that altruism is not just a human trait & that animals do not look out for just their own group but do indeed look after others from outside their group be they the same species as them or not.

I was pointing out that cats are not the only animals to be 'cruel' to other animals. I think it was pointed out that cats catch & tease, hurt birds just for sport. I was pointing out humans do that to humans & make other animals fight each other for fun.

Ok so sometimes animals act like humans and humans act like animals?

So why did a bunch of people copy and paste the whole Internets?

Oooh sparkle

You seem like a very nice person Thatisall.

I shall leave you superior animals to it.

Da da da da daaa >kicks legs

merrygo musical theatre style leg kick!! Best exit from a thread EVER!

If a cat runs out in front of my car the law doesn't even oblige me swerve in case I hit a human by accident.

Not saying the highway code should be the final word on everything, but still, there it is.

On the bum licking point, my old boss used to put his hand down the back of his trousers then sniff it (trying to be discreet)! Then he would put his hand on someone's shoulder! We called him Scratch and Sniff.

Wow, some seriously fucked up views from the animal savers. I agree with whoever said it would be morally reprehensible to save an animal over a human.

The grief you feel on losing a pet is fleeting, the grief you feel on losing a human close to you is lifelong. I've experienced both and they are in no way comparable. I hope I never experience the loss of a child. My friend who did is a broken woman. How you could even think to put someone else through that is quite honestly beyond me.

Pets are replaceable, you can go and get another dog that will fill the hole left, that will give the love and companionship that a dog provides. I know, I've replaced 4 dead pets.

You cannot buy another human that will love you in the same way as your mother/father/child etc did. Hence why you should save the human if you have any kind of human compassion or empathy.

Maryz it doesn't :)

Or if it does, not significantly enough to warrant making my poor thumb ache from all the phone scrolling