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AIBU?

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to hate this desciption of David Tennants family?

108 replies

Bogeyface · 27/10/2013 22:31

I have noticed that it has happened to Dawn French and Lenny Henry too, but reading about DT earlier prompted me to post.

Reading an article about his new TV series and it said that he was a father of 2 with his wife and "adoptive father" of her eldest child. So......father of 3 then?

DF and LH have always been described as having an adopted child, rather than having a child. Why?

A family is a family regardless of how it comes about and emotionally and legally DT is that childs father, so why make the distinction? Who's business is it and really, who cares?

AIBU to think that the media should stop doing this as it fosters the belief that an adopted child is somehow different from a biological child. In this age of blended families, it seems especially ridiculous to make distinctions.

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OutragedFromLeeds · 27/10/2013 23:46

This gives me the rage. There's been lots about 'Sandra Bullock and her adopted son Louis' recently. He's just her son fgs.

I read an interview with Dawn French once where she said she couldn't understand why Jennifer Saunders daughters were never called her 'vaginally born daughters' Grin.

Kemmo · 27/10/2013 23:49

Ignore me. I'm wrong :)

Sorry.

Bogeyface · 27/10/2013 23:50

Kemmo

I am confused. DT's family has three children, all of whom are legally his and his wife's, how is saying there are only two accurate?

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Bogeyface · 27/10/2013 23:50

Xpost

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TheWomanTheyCallJayne · 27/10/2013 23:51

I was confused then too.
Being agreed with but it wasn't what I actually said.

Lighthousekeeping · 28/10/2013 00:09

Love Hugh's wife m.youtube.com/watch?v=FM4IPDY7LWQ&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DFM4IPDY7LWQ

IneedAsockamnesty · 28/10/2013 00:10

It winds me up as well.

When I was little I got a step parent adoption as did my brothers and sisters,from that moment on my stepdad ceased to be my stepdad and became my dad.

From that moment on my brothers and sisters became my brothers and sisters as opposed to half siblings.

Yet people still insist on referring to them as halfs. Even my dads new wife once asked me if I saw much of my real dad and when i last saw him,she was surprised when I said " well he's just gone to the shed" she didnt get that the adoption made him my real dad.

Devora · 28/10/2013 00:15

nice to see this thread. As a mother with both a birth child and an adopted child, this gives me the rage big-style.

TheDoctrineOfAnyFucker · 28/10/2013 00:36

YANBU

Tigerbomb · 28/10/2013 01:03

I must admit I have never thought of it that way.

I have a half brother (same mom) - My step father adopted us both - I still refer to him as my step father and my brother as my half brother probably because I don't class us as full blood relations

You have given me food for thought

ConfusedPixie · 28/10/2013 08:11

YANBU. My Mum and her sister was adopted by my Grandad (originally step-father), my grandparents also have adopted a little girl. They are all my grandparents daughters, not 'adopted' daughters.

lljkk · 28/10/2013 08:49

If there's no shame in it then why not talk about the circumstances of how the family came to be formed? I feel like OP is saying the only reason journalists would make the distinction is because they assume people would want only so that they can find a reason to form prejudice. If you don't have that prejudice, then it's just a colourful detail in personal history. Nothing else.

By insisting that it shouldn't be talked about, that means you're buying into a bias that there's something shameful to be glossed over. So I'm in YABU camp.

My brothers were adopted by my dad in 1965, btw, with their bio-dad's blessing.

noblegiraffe · 28/10/2013 09:07

I understand why people object to children being described as adopted when it's not a part of the story, e.g. 'Here's a pic of Sandra Bullock out with her adopted son' instead of just son, but if they are doing an article about David Tennant and describing his family, would you object to them even mentioning that the eldest was adopted by him? Or that Lenny Henry and Dawn French adopted their children?

Blissx · 28/10/2013 09:11

I 100% agree that it is annoying to read these labels in the paper. I have a brother and a sister and we are all adopted. Genetically speaking, my brother and I have the same birth mother, though. It infuriates me when people assume that he is therefore, more of a brother to me than my sister is. On example; his ex wife on their wedding day took me to one side and said she was especially excited to get to know me more as I was his real sister Hmm. Needless to say, I wanted to punch her. Therefore, I hate any inference that somehow, being adoptive has a connotation to some people as not being 'real'.

WorkingItOutAsIGo · 28/10/2013 09:16

YANBU OP but I am Shock as I always assumed DT was gay. So IWBU!!

Trills · 28/10/2013 09:21

Given the level of interest David Tennant's private life gets, I imagine it was mentioned so that people didn't look at the age of the children and say but wasn't he dating so-and-so when the eldest was born?

sashh · 28/10/2013 09:24

I mostly agree. I certainly agree with LH and DF being parents but I do think it's a bit different with an older child.

Surely it would be confusing to ignore the adoption and give the ages of the three children because one could be 10 years older than the parents' relationship.

BTW how cool would it be to have a Dr Who as both your dad and grandad?

specialsubject · 28/10/2013 09:24

real sleb trivia - but the only reason I can think of is that the oldest boy was born when Tennant's wife was 16 or 17. He is about 15 years older than she is so in these post-Savile times, perhaps the journos wish to make clear that he isn't the biological father as that would not look good.

no, he isn't gay. He cut a swathe through female Doctor Who cast and crew before stopping at Georgia who was also a guest star on the show.

good luck to them all. Never read a bad word about him.

Heartbrokenmum73 · 28/10/2013 10:34

I was annoyed at the RT interview too. I immediately noticed that the oldest child wasn't even mentioned! I actually wondered what had happened to the boy.

And it's quite insulting to Georgia Moffett to only have the two kids she's had with DT mentioned in the article, as if the son she had with someone else isn't important because he's not 'really' DT's son.

I hope one, or both, of them complains about that interview.

Lighthousekeeping · 28/10/2013 12:34

Given the age of some of the celebs that suddenly appear with children I think it's safe to assume they were adopted or from a surrogate. Robert de Niros wife was well into her fifties when their daughter came into their lives. It's not something we need to know. I don't see what difference it makes. However if you watch American chat shows as much as I do you will see that the celebs are the first to mention adoption. Not even the interviewer. If you Google Hugh Jackson he is very vocal about it.

Lighthousekeeping · 28/10/2013 12:35

Jackman!

Lighthousekeeping · 28/10/2013 12:35

whom I always assumed was gay Blush

Devora · 28/10/2013 22:25

noblegiraffe, lijkk, I don't think anybody was complaining about adoption being discussed per se (so long as it's done in a way that's respectful to the feelings of the child). I am certainly very open about the fact that I am adopted and always happy to discuss adoption (though not the personal circumstances of my child). We are talking about when 'adopted' is used as a qualifier, not in the context of any discussion of adoption, but as a separate category of child.

I've seen it used in articles on Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman, when both were described (separately, obviously) as having had their 'first child', then the article has gone on to say they also have adopted children. I've seen features on Brangelina which major on their biological children, then go on to list their adopted children separately.

Anyway, it's not about my feelings, it's about my child's, and I can't believe for one second she would be happy to hear people say to me, "oh, is this your daughter? And is this other one your adopted daughter?"

Bogeyface · 28/10/2013 22:29

We are talking about when 'adopted' is used as a qualifier, not in the context of any discussion of adoption, but as a separate category of child

This. Thank you Devora

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ShowMeYourTARDIS · 28/10/2013 22:40

To clarify, David Tennant & Georgia Moffett have 3 children. Tyler (b 2002), is not DT's biologically. I remember GM saying his bio father was never involved. They also have Olive (b 2011) and Wilfred (b 2013).

YANBU, OP. They have 3 kids. Tyler is DT's son.