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to think this is very disruptive??

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macdoodle · 13/10/2013 15:52

I probably am being unreasonable and am prepared to hear it.
My DD1 has just started secondary school, she is in the "more able class" (this is what its called by the school Hmm).
In this class, of about 20 odd, there is a boy with SN. He has an assistant for every lesson, and from what my DD tells me I guess he must have some form of autism.
But every single day, she is coming home with stories of what "X" has done. Thinks like having tantrum, which takes 20mins to calm down disrupting the lesson, shouting at the teacher, grabbing or hitting another child (and once a teacher), throwing all his books and stuff on the floor (numerous occasions), storming out of lessons etc etc.
Now the kids all seem to think this is hysterical (and great fun that almost every lesson is disrupted by "X"), but every day I am a bit Hmm, it just sounds very disruptive, and DD is starting to sound more annoyed than thinking its funny.
She does however say that is is clearly very bright indeed.
I know he has just as much right to be taught, but at the cost of disrupting a whole class of children? AIBU?? I can't quite decide TBH, and so far it doesnt appear to be affecting DD1's abilities, but we are only a term in.

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Morgause · 15/10/2013 21:19

OP said she wouldn't return after her child was insulted. Can't say I blame her.

Kleinzeit · 15/10/2013 21:29

Well, she might sneak a peek anyway Smile

zzzzz · 15/10/2013 21:30

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YouTheCat · 15/10/2013 21:30

She shouldn't start such ridiculous threads then.

frumpet · 15/10/2013 22:11

Is the prevelance of autism really 1in 20 ? thats a serious question by the way , not a disbelieving one .

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WestieMamma · 15/10/2013 22:32

Is the prevelance of autism really 1in 20 ?

No it isn't. zzzzz is correct, it's roughly 1 in 100 (1.1% to be precise).

GobbySadcase · 16/10/2013 00:02

Westie that's long been considered incorrect. Current stats put it at 1:16 to 1:20

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GobbySadcase · 16/10/2013 00:17

Trying to find. Need bed now though as DS2 will be up for the day in 3 hours (DS1 only just gone down) so will root it out tomorrow.

capticorn1 · 16/10/2013 07:56

So sorry that should say 1 in 50, figures from Autismspeaks website. This refers to school age children.

WestieMamma · 16/10/2013 08:06

The prevalence figures I gave are from the latest UK prevalence studies: Baird G. et al. (2006), Brugha et al (2009) and The NHS Information Centre, Community and Mental Health Team, Brugha et al (2012). If there's been one since then I'd be genuinely interested in seeing it as I'm currently covering this as part of my degree.

WestieMamma · 16/10/2013 08:12

The Forbes and Autismspeaks website give the figures for American prevalence studies which have always been different to UK ones.

Trigglesx · 16/10/2013 10:59

comingalong For what it's worth, I didn't "scream discrimination." I think I've been pretty rational and open minded. You, on the other hand....Hmm

And the Teacher Trigglesx has he got his own legally appointed teacher? No - thought not. hmm You're so desperate to scream "Discrimination" that you won't listen to reason.

So because he has a 1:1 he is never allowed to interact with the teacher at all? Are they rationing out teacher minutes in class now?

I know who isn't listening to reason, and it isn't me.

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WestieMamma · 16/10/2013 12:02

They both use the DSM criteria but there can be differences in how they're applied and also cultural differences.

zzzzz · 16/10/2013 13:03

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WestieMamma · 16/10/2013 14:39

Sorry I don't understand your question.

sickofsocalledexperts · 16/10/2013 15:56

In the US they have (cleverly I think) separated out he figures for boys/girls

So, as boys are 4 times more likely than girls to be autistic, the figure is 1 in 58 for boys in the US

I suspect the same logic would apply here, but we still use the 1 in 100 of all kids

YouTheCat · 16/10/2013 16:17

More girls are being diagnosed. It's only recently that the professionals have begun to realise that autism can present differently in girls because they use their brains differently.

Dd is currently under assessment for autism. She's intelligent and articulate but she has some serious anxiety issues. Noise is a big trigger for her, as are crowds (doesn't even have to be a big crowd). Her difficulties became more apparent as she got older. Once she hit year 5 relationships became more complicated and she started to struggle socially. Now she's 18, she can't do the same things as some of her peers. Going to a gig fills her with horror. Even the cinema can be a problem unless it's quiet. She doesn't want to do the things her friends see as so much fun - like going clubbing.

I don't know if she is autistic but it would explain a lot and I think it would help her to cope, knowing there is a reason.

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sickofsocalledexperts · 16/10/2013 16:25

Mine are definitely US figures yes, but I just tried to get my clever maths dd to do the maths here too:

If 1 in 100 kids are autistic, but boys are 4 times more likely to be autistic, then would that equate to 1 in 20 boys?

My head is exploding so I don't know!

ouryve · 16/10/2013 16:33

No - about 1 in 60. If you assume equal numbers of boys and girls in the population, then the average of 1 in 60 (or 4 in 240) and 1 in 240 is 2.5 in 240, or around 1% (some very rough mental arithmetic, there)

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