to think this is very disruptive??

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I probably am being unreasonable and am prepared to hear it.
My DD1 has just started secondary school, she is in the "more able class" (this is what its called by the school ).
In this class, of about 20 odd, there is a boy with SN. He has an assistant for every lesson, and from what my DD tells me I guess he must have some form of autism.
But every single day, she is coming home with stories of what "X" has done. Thinks like having tantrum, which takes 20mins to calm down disrupting the lesson, shouting at the teacher, grabbing or hitting another child (and once a teacher), throwing all his books and stuff on the floor (numerous occasions), storming out of lessons etc etc.
Now the kids all seem to think this is hysterical (and great fun that almost every lesson is disrupted by "X"), but every day I am a bit , it just sounds very disruptive, and DD is starting to sound more annoyed than thinking its funny.
She does however say that is is clearly very bright indeed.
I know he has just as much right to be taught, but at the cost of disrupting a whole class of children? AIBU?? I can't quite decide TBH, and so far it doesnt appear to be affecting DD1's abilities, but we are only a term in.

So, back to my question - if you think that is too much disruption where do you suggest that boy goes to school? Or should he just not be entitled to an education?

If it's managed and it works for her and it doesn't disrupt the learning of others, why would you?

My point was aimed at the people who think that children should learn to work through disruption. I think that is unfair.

I think it's unfair that that young man will have very many fewer options educationally than a NT child.

That is what is unfair.

Whether that child was academically able to be in the class.

Having issues with social interaction is one of the triad of impairment which makes up autism. Most children on the spectrum are not disruptive but they are certainly not 'socially competent'

Therefore your DD's school is discriminating with their lesson for nice, clever children.

Alls fair in love, war and education

I thought the behaviours listed were taken from the OP but maybe I misread it.

My last post aimed at Sugarman

I don't know. I don't know anyone who does. I just don't think insisting that children should work through disruption is a strategy.

I didn't read that post. I only read the one with the list. I agree that's a terrible thing to say.

A child being black will have no direct effect on her child's education. A child with SN may do if the support is inadequate.

daydoris no discrimination. In fact they are at the forefront of education. social competency is considered more important than academic achievement in leading schools.

I overheard (couldn't help it as she was an awful, loud, gobby shite) a woman on the metro complaining to her friend that she was really fucked off that they'd let a child with a disability in her dd's nursery class because she didn't want her child to 'catch retarded'.

She was bloody lucky the train was packed because my ex and I wanted to 'educate' her, quite vehemently.

Sorry to disappoint.

That is discrimination, sugarman. A child with autism may well lack 'social competency' but might well wipe the floor with these 'gifted' children, academically.

If it's managed and it works for her and it doesn't disrupt the learning of others, why would you?
Initially it did disrupt things. They've got used to it now, and because she is more relaxed, it doesn't happen as often. It was down to people giving her a chance and the fact that here and now we have inclusive education which is not, thank goodness up to the likes of Farage and his very obvious followers on here.

candy

I didn't mean the deleted post, I didn't see it before it was deleted. I meant the one with the list. Which I was hoping was just badly worded. Maybe not though.

I don't have children yet. I have no idea what the future holds, they may be NT or have SN or could be NT and then after an illness/accident have SN. Anything could happen.

I hope that by the time any future children of mine start school there is more understanding, support and compassion for children with any SN. It seems woefully lacking.

I would have expected that a child who hit another child or a teacher would be excluded. For at least a day. And would be put on a closely monitored behaviour programme before coming back to school. It probably is happening. There is no reason for the OP's daughter to know if it is.

The world is made up of so many different people. School is a microcosm of the real world. Children need to learn to live side-by-side with people from all walks of life. One day your child who is "disrupted" in the classroom, may very well be on a bus that's delayed because the bus driver had trouble getting the ramp down on a busy rush hour bus. I was on that bus and was horrified by the comments from suited and booted grown adults who muttered at the perceived inconvenience due to a person who was a wheelchair user. Perhaps they weren't taught as children to accept all sorts of people in the world.