to think this is very disruptive??

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I probably am being unreasonable and am prepared to hear it.
My DD1 has just started secondary school, she is in the "more able class" (this is what its called by the school ).
In this class, of about 20 odd, there is a boy with SN. He has an assistant for every lesson, and from what my DD tells me I guess he must have some form of autism.
But every single day, she is coming home with stories of what "X" has done. Thinks like having tantrum, which takes 20mins to calm down disrupting the lesson, shouting at the teacher, grabbing or hitting another child (and once a teacher), throwing all his books and stuff on the floor (numerous occasions), storming out of lessons etc etc.
Now the kids all seem to think this is hysterical (and great fun that almost every lesson is disrupted by "X"), but every day I am a bit , it just sounds very disruptive, and DD is starting to sound more annoyed than thinking its funny.
She does however say that is is clearly very bright indeed.
I know he has just as much right to be taught, but at the cost of disrupting a whole class of children? AIBU?? I can't quite decide TBH, and so far it doesnt appear to be affecting DD1's abilities, but we are only a term in.

Wow, there really are some heartless posts on here. You do realise you are talking about a person! Someone's child?! FFS.

It really does seem that some people have no experience of SN.

I was out shopping today and there was a boy out with his grandma he quite clearly had special needs, and people were actually pointing I mean for fuck sake! Pointing!! What world do we live in.

Anger is usually a manifestation of fear or hurt.

And we are not going to get into private schools are we?

I'm wading thought the McCann crap, the 'retard' thread and this. Private schools would tip me over the edge.

Don't tip pagwatch

I'd love to know where some of the people on this thread think we should send our children with additional needs?

Some of you sound like UKIP reps.

Thank you Stumey

It's been a tricky day

The fact is that people are expecting the OP's daughter to put up with a disrupted education when a child in a private school wouldn't have to put up with it.

I have a hell of a lot of sympathy for the boy in the class who clearly isn't receiving the education he needs either. It doesn't stop me feeling for the OP's daughter, too.

I think there are so many threads of this nature because clearly there is a problem. It is unhelpful to turn it into a battle of disablist comments whether founded or not.
The problem has to be with inclusion, and there are many parents who don't understand the system. When they say things like this child shouldn't be in school instead of jumping on them explain the system to them.
I H.ed my dd for several reasons one of which is the fact that school wouldn't test for dyslexia as she had average scores, this was because she was more able.
I come across so many children who mainstream education hasn't beneffited, dc with additional needs, whose parents are fighting for an education for their children. They H.ed not out of choice as I do, but because of no choice. This is wrong and needs addressing.
People need to listen to the problems other parents experience from both sides, it is the childrens interests that are most important.

That was meant to be Strumpey

I was aiming for friendly biput I just looked all doddery

My Aspie son went to private school. Occasionally he disrupted a class. However, the school were aware of his needs and things were dealt with in the appropriate manner.
My dds both AS went to mainstream schools, they too have been catered for well, so it can happen in both environments.

I like Stumey

Fair enough imperial. But my children deal with their sibling their every waking moment. So perhaps you could not use that particular stick to beat me with?

It sounds like a general issue (can't comment on the OP's circumstances) is a shocking lack of places in specialist provision. I have to confess ignorance on this, and when posters have pointed out the utter shortfall in places, it's shocking.

I remember a blind friend of mine telling me about her secondary education. She was mainstream for most of it, but went to a specialist 6th form. She says it was amazing, she realised what she'd been missing out on and she was quite pissed off with her parents for pushing mainstream.

It really made me wonder about the inclusion agenda, and whose benefit is it for. I think it does make kids more tolerant to be around a diverse (in all its senses) group , but are the children with SEN having their needs met?

Bloody hell.

But you knew presumably knew nothing about these children except they had SN and yet you judged.

I know of one woman who started a campaign to have a year 6 boy removed from her ds's class.

She is a vile cow. With some understanding, instead of bullying that he got from the likes of her ds, that young lad would have been fine and settled down.

Khaleese not all children with additional needs are like that, are they? In fact it's really quite rare.

OP YANBU I have been in your position and it did affect my ds2 learning and happiness in school when a child with SN who sat next to him was very disruptive in class. I had a quiet word with his teacher who told me he was glad I said something because he hadn't realised the full effect it was having on ds2. The teacher put in some interventions and got extra adult support for her. it improved the situation greatly. It's worth saying something as the school may not be aware of the full impact it's having on other children

Khaleese, that last post is beyond appalling and I have reported.

Khaleese I haven't found offence in any of these posts but that was just... wow.