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To assume everyone who quotes the WHO bf guidelines

70 replies

DontPanicMrMannering · 08/10/2013 09:07

Also immunises?

What with recommended immunisation schedules being set by the WHO too?

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LaurieFairyCake · 08/10/2013 09:08

Bollocks

Do you eat your 5,7 vegetables a day?

MoaningMingeWhingesAgain · 08/10/2013 09:09
Hmm

Sorry I don't understand your point?

You mean people who are aware of the WHO recommendation on breastfeeding must also immunise otherwise they are...what, exactly?

LaurieFairyCake · 08/10/2013 09:12

Most people are able to choose the advice and guidelines they follow.

Unless the WHO has become some sort of law making entity Hmm

Do you find it difficult OP to choose what advice to follow? Would you like other mumsnetters to help you with your choices?

passmetheprozac · 08/10/2013 09:13

This totally wont turn into a bunfight, and be deleted by lunchtime Hmm

DontPanicMrMannering · 08/10/2013 09:13

I mean that the WHO guidelines on bf are often quoted as a "must do" (I bf by the way also ff one dd so no agenda).

Yet the same fairly militant mother's also decry vaccines as poison.

It's hypocritical to treat the WHO as the source ofbf wisdom yet ignore them on something else surely?

Do the WHO have 5 a day guidelines?

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DontPanicMrMannering · 08/10/2013 09:14

passme it's a debate, pure and simple, we should be able to have them without getting deleted!

I genuinly think it's a question worth considering.

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OrangeOpalFruit · 08/10/2013 09:16

It is irrational, but people will only listen to the advice they want to hear. That's why there are so many different parenting books out there. You can pick the one that you already agree with and feel clever for doing everything right.

TEErickOrTEEreat · 08/10/2013 09:16

Your logic is faulty.

MoaningMingeWhingesAgain · 08/10/2013 09:18

Well, lots of people I know who do natural term breastfeeding are more cautious with vaccines and either don't immunise or delay them, as is their right to choose

However some people who breastfeed until 2 or more are happy to give all routine vaccines as is their right to choose

DreamingOfTheMaldives · 08/10/2013 09:22

If I'm right I don't think it is choosing to follow only some advice from the WHO that the OP has issues with, it is the quoting as absolute gospel that WHO recommend BF until 2 years old (I think) but then completely reject their recommendations on immunisations.

DontPanicMrMannering · 08/10/2013 09:23

TTE elaborate?

Moaning totally agree the two things aren't mutually exclusive and It's personal choice.

I just think you trust the WHO as a valid scientific research source or you don't, then do alternative research.

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Sunnysummer · 08/10/2013 09:24

Don't see why it's such faulty logic. I've also noticed the discrepancy.

Bf to me is in fact much more of a right-to-choose subject than vaccination, which has implications for third parties, and is therefore closer to choosing to smoke.

badguider · 08/10/2013 09:25

I agree that anyone who says "you MUST do x y because WHO recommends it" should also do anything else who recommends or they have no leg to stand on.

However I've never met anybody in RL who says that about who guidelines.

DontPanicMrMannering · 08/10/2013 09:26

Thankyou Dreaming exactly.

It's been playing on my mind since yesterday when the Alphamummy thread led me to a meme telling all vaccinators to kill themselves Shock yet the forum quoted WHO guidelines liberally. And I've seen it here too. Not quite so offensively obviously.

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MoaningMingeWhingesAgain · 08/10/2013 09:28

They both affect whole communities though.

It costs the NHS millions of pounds every year to treat babies hospitalised with illnesses that are related to not breastfeeding

I have FF and breastfed til two as well, btw.

ReallyTired · 08/10/2013 09:29

Plenty of people who breastfeed until two year old also vacinate their problem. I think that WHO advice on vacinations is sensible and I followed their advice on breastfeeding.

I think that its totally irresponsible not to vacinate your children unless there are VERY strong medical reasons not to. Comparing not vacinating your children to smoking is a little harsh Sunnysummer

I suspect that more people do extended breastfeeding than statistics show. I was very cadgy who I told that I was still breastfeeding my children.

choceyes · 08/10/2013 09:29

OP I do get what you are saying. But people make their own choices I guess and do what feels right for them.
Personally I have "followed" the WHO guidelines and still BFing my 3yr old and also have given all immunisations to both childrens and wouldn't dream of not doing so.
But but choices are nothing to do with the WHO guidelines. I wasn't even aware they had guidelines of immunising...but thinking about it I guess they do!

MoaningMingeWhingesAgain · 08/10/2013 09:34

at the risk of adding fuel to the fire Grin I think it's more like religion.
you can believe and follow some of it without following everything
eg you can be Catholic but choose not to follow the contraception rules.

You can pick and choose without being a massive hypocrite IMHO

NotYoMomma · 08/10/2013 09:35

there are huge discrepancies about the guidelines people will follow and quote it is a bit infuriating. I'm such an alpha parent to mY child but I dont give a shit about yours Wink

IceBeing · 08/10/2013 09:35

Plenty of people who breastfeed until two year old also vacinate their problem

aside the marvelous substitution of problem for children this is me. I think the majority of BFers also vaccinate....

I agree picking and choosing your medical evidence is bull though....I just don't think that many people do it.

TheBigJessie · 08/10/2013 09:36

Well, I have quoted the WHO breastfeeding guidelines when people criticised breastfeeding, but I also immunised my children, and got myself immunised.

NotYoMomma · 08/10/2013 09:37

no you cant moaning

I am technically Catholic (for the school place ha) but would rather chop out my own uterus than have another baby and believe in contraception wholeheartedly.

im not going to delude myself that I am not a massive hypocrite because I am. I am also a shit Catholic who doesnt believe Wink Wink

Faverolles · 08/10/2013 09:46

How is this even an AIBU when the vast majority of people don't bf their dc until 6 months, let alone 2 years?

I have never read or heard of anyone saying that because the WHO recommends it, you have to do it.
I have heard people quote the WHO guidelines as part of their defence to still be feeding a toddler (sad they need to defend themselves in the first place), but ultimately people make their own mind up and bring up their dc the way they want to.

I'm still feeding my nearly 3 yo, he had all his jabs. Is that ok?

Grennie · 08/10/2013 09:47

Agree OP. People quote recommendations that fit in with their own beliefs.

ToysRLuv · 08/10/2013 09:48

Yes, I know someone who very readily and happily quotes the WHO 2 year bf rule and then picks and chooses vaccines according to whatever bollocks she has read on "natural news" and whether any of her three children have had an upset stomach after previous ones.