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teachers, do you just want to come and line up against this wall?

62 replies

SPBisResisting · 01/10/2013 21:19

We'll get all the bashing out of the way in one go. Then you can all have Wine

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SPBisResisting · 01/10/2013 21:50

Oh yes. And ive been to natwest so I could be a banker and earn a six figure salary and bonus. It's just weighing coins in those little machines, surely?

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Sparklingbrook · 01/10/2013 21:54

When I was growing up my Mum and Dad didn't question what the teachers did at all, and accepted they knew what they were doing and let them do it.

Why all the parental interference nowadays? it would drive me insane.

honey86 · 01/10/2013 22:18

i supported the teachers today, although my dcs teachers worked as normal.

my sons severely autistic, and delayed developmentally. his teacher, ta's and SENcos work their asses off to keep him in mainstream school where hes happy. its not just in class, its after school support clubs, SEN meetings, following a list dished to them with his SEN statement and speech therapy reports of a variety of plans to keep ds progressing.

i think theyre entitled to a strike day to protest against these corrupt toffs from fiddling with teachers pay/pensions whilst lining their own pockets.

homeagain · 02/10/2013 00:16

Teachers (by and large) are fab! I take my hat off to you. And good luck

MrsTerryPratchett · 02/10/2013 00:21

Thank you teachers. While they are slagging you off, they are completely leaving Social Workers alone. Thanks

SilverApples · 02/10/2013 00:39

One of the reasons I love our long holidays is that the slagging-off of teachers dips to a low level on MN for six weeks. Then it rages back full force.
The respite is nice whilst it lasts.

LackaDAISYcal · 02/10/2013 00:50

No bashing here...I support the strike wholeheartedly and think teachers and TA's deserve better pay and the right to keep the pension that was in place when they signed up for doing the job, and less red tape and beaurocracy so that they can actually do the job of teaching.

This, from Gove today, made me laugh ruefully though:

"I have a simple message for the leaders of miltant teaching unions: please, please, please don't put your ideology before our children's interests"

Tosser.

LordElpuss · 02/10/2013 00:53

Shouldn't you be getting on with your planning and marking?

echt · 02/10/2013 01:11

SilverApples makes a good point. Following all this from Aus, I noticed the summer holiday lull, and thought back to previous summers when the weather in the UK was horrid: lots of "holidays too long" posts, and the resulting bashing of teachers. This year, not at all, apart from the arse, Gove.

The shit kicking off about the strike is the first this academic year, so I'm concluding that for some people, teachers really ARE there as child care.
A careful reading of the recent posts shows some astonishingly ill-informed posters, as well as the usual suspects who can be guaranteed to put the boot in. On the whole, though, I've been heartened by the support from the mass of posters.

Good on yer.

< I'm marking coursework in my holiday: MN is my treat after five scripts>

MidniteScribbler · 02/10/2013 01:18

We're used to lining up.... usually along the bar. Wine

englishteacher78 · 02/10/2013 06:05

It was actually the teacher bashers on here who convinced me to strike! No point having a debate if one side's not listening!

jasminerose · 02/10/2013 06:14

No teachers went on strike here. They are on a high wage, and all the ones I know are happy enough.

StitchingMoss · 02/10/2013 06:25

Moustachio and demented, I think you're missing the point. This thread isn't to tell teachers how amazing they are, and most teachers aren't that fussed about being told how amazing they are, it's a light hearted piss take of all the teacher bashing that goes on here and in RL. Teachers aren't heroes but they also (for the most part) don't deserve the very bad press they get.

QueenofLouisiana · 02/10/2013 07:11

Sorry, running a bit late for the general bashing. I didn't look at MN last night as I was working until nearly 11. I do however realise that teaching is a hugely family friendly job and I do only whine about reading logs and worry about what children have in their lunch boxes (primary teaching). Hope you all had a productive day- striking or non-striking.

KatyPutTheCuttleOn · 02/10/2013 07:21

*This, from Gove today, made me laugh ruefully though:

"I have a simple message for the leaders of miltant teaching unions: please, please, please don't put your ideology before our children's interests"*

Black, Pot, Kettle.

All these threads about teacher bashing, I suppose I should be glad that the teaching assistants are not being bashed - both of mine have had some fantastic dedicated teaching assistants (as well as teachers) who are qualified way beyond what the job requires and work really hard for very, very little pay. Nobody seems to have anything to say about teaching assistants, whether good or bad. They seem to go unnoticed, though classrooms without them would be very different places. I've seen forums on education websites where teachers are bashing TAs - what hope is there? [crawls back under stone]

jasminerose · 02/10/2013 07:22

I think thats what annoys people queen the way teachers on here want constantly thanking. If you dont like it then go and do the 1000s if other better paid jobs that are apparently out there.

englishteacher78 · 02/10/2013 07:26

I don't want thanking by the parents particularly. It is nice when the pupils say thanks when they leave the classroom. Just as I think it's polite to say thanks to the driver at the end of the bus journey. I'm not a saint, my DH sometimes tells me off for working at all hours but I am well aware that's the case in many professions.
Lines up against the wall.

MidniteScribbler · 02/10/2013 07:26

::watches the point sail by jasmine's head::

Sparklingbrook · 02/10/2013 07:27

But they deserve some thanks don't they? Confused They are shaping our children's future.

DS2 cried all the way home from school on the last day of term in July because he didn't want to leave his teacher's class. DS2 is 11! I felt like joining him TBH.

Sparklingbrook · 02/10/2013 07:29

I would want some thanks for going on a Residential trip with 60 11 year olds for a week for no more pay than I usually got.

Rotterwallah · 02/10/2013 07:29

You don't hear any other profession going on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on

CrohnicallyLurking · 02/10/2013 07:29

Jasminerose-
I thank the bus driver when I get off.
I thank the shop assistant as she gives me my change.
I thank the window cleaner as he leaves.

They're all only doing their job but it is polite to say thank you.

Why shouldn't teachers expect a bit of thanks too?

jasminerose · 02/10/2013 07:30

I work as a nursery manager in a very deprived area. I dont get thanked much. I have often had parents getting confrontational when there have been meetings with social services. Teachers are much better paid than any of my staff, and the actual hours with the children are considerably longer, and breaks and holidays much shorter.

mymagaret · 02/10/2013 07:43

All jobs get stick fgs! No one has a perfect job and most people work bloody hard. All the teachers crying over how hard they work is funny really, i'm sure if they were nurses working 12 + hours shifts to help save lives or in the Military and spending 6 months without a day off away from all their loved ones they might think their jobs were really not that bad at all. Yes teachers are invaluable and good on you for wanting to work with children every day! But its really not as bad and worth the pity they seem to crave.

StitchingMoss · 02/10/2013 07:46

Hmm, I give up as too many posters missing the point by a million miles!

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