AIBU to expect teachers to strike in the school holidays and not in term time.

[NotSuchASmugMarriedNow]

Well am I?

Considering that teachers are always insisting that they work during the school holidays, how come they never strike during the school holidays and always wait until term time to do so?

Odd that!

www.nasuwt.org.uk/Whatsnew/NASUWTNews/Nationalnewsitems/NASUWT_011110

If you read a proper newspaper you can find out why teachers are striking . Teachers are not a baby sitting service for working parents . ( btw I'm not a teacher )

FFS

Oh my goodness. Is this serious?
Nobody else is standing up for our children's education, which is being systematically dismantled by Gove and his lies. If only there was a way for parents and children in all state schools to strike, because they should be objecting too.

YABU. Completely.

I would like to think they are paid for the holidays, seeing as they all insist they work them

I don't think people have a lot of sympathy for teachers these days as regards pay and pension rights. They do quite reasonably financially IMHO. Not saying it's an easy job. It isn't.

OP, you have no understanding at all about how workers strike, and the purpose of them?
None at all?
Here you go news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/find_out/guides/uk/strikes/newsid_2134000/2134284.stm

Thank you spikeytree for that link.

However, you said you weren't striking for more money and that thread kind of reads to me as though you are.

They are salaried aren't they?! Hence they get paid for the holidays. If they don't they would be free to get other jobs in the holidays!

Not more money, for our pensions, for national pay and conditions.

We aren't paid for the holidays and are free to get another job. Unfortunately the one we have takes up too much of the holidays to make this practical.

Hilarious.

The same reason you don't go out and get a sick note when you're ill on holidays. It's your holidays. And teachers are not paid for most of theirs.

The reason I am striking tomorrow from my job as a teacher is because I am terrified of the changes that are being pushed through because I am a parent. I do not want my DS (4)'s education to take the shape that Gove is planning. It scares me what secondary education will look like in a decade if all of this goes ahead. If you are a parent, you should be worried too. Gove is grinding down state schools, the teachers who work in them and, most importantly, the children who go to them. Standards are not being raised. It is appalling.

I don't work in the school holidays, I've never 'insisted' I do. However I studied for years at university and beyond, to get a job in teaching - if you're jealous, OP, the jobs are advertised. Feel free to apply.

You're posting opinions based on 'like to think'?!

Blimey

We aren't paid for our holidays. We DO working in them. I've just taken students to Belgium and France for the weekend. Without being paid. That's right, I haven't had a weekend. I wasn't paid. Would you like me to explain once again how I worked all weekend without being paid? I'd like to think it was appreciated. Of over 50 students, TWO parents said 'thank you'. I wasn't paid.

In fact, you don't even need to buy a newspaper to read about it. There's several broadsheets still free online, plus local papers, plus numerous blogs.

And this one's not purely about pay and pensions. It's about the way the entire state education system is going. Pay and pensions are a small part of that.

If they were working to rule, then you'd know how much gets done in the holidays and at weekends, OP. But this is a strike. Different kind of industrial action.

Still finding hard it to believe someone has the time to whinge on the net and still can't type NUT or NASUWT and find out the facts. I'm in Australia, and I know why they're striking

It's a technicality. We are paid every month but officially it is 9 months of pay spread out over 12 months.

So, essentially, yes we are paid in the holidays but teaching is called a part time job so that we don't feel we have to work a 9-5 in the holidays. I doubt I work an averag eof any more than 2 hours a day in the holidays but I don't feel guilty because I can tell myself I'm not being paid anyway.

Though actually, if you call it a 9 month salary I am incredibly well paid!!

Beepbeep you're wrong - we ARE fee to take up other work in the holidays.

And no, we get paid based on a 39 week year. Although, that will soon be a 45 week plus year if a certain someone has his way for staff and children.

I have waffled on here before about the strikes I took part in in the early 80s.
All we did was withdraw goodwill, and all the unpaid extra things we did in a day, a week and a year. We planned work, turned up and taught it and then we marked the work.
Nothing else. We did the job as it stood on paper, and the impact of the withdrawal was significant. Parents became aware of how much was done as part of the profession, without pay.
Over the years I feel it has changed from a profession to a job, with huge levels of paperwork and micromanaging and constantly changing goal posts.
I have every sympathy with those striking to try and halt the juggernaut, and those who are trying to put the focus back on the educational principles that should be at the core of learning.

If I didn't work in the holidays, I'd be turning up in class with no resources, no planning and no idea about the new curriculum.

The same reason you don't go out and get a sick note when you're ill on holidays.

Actually I know loads of people over the years who were on holiday, became ill, got a sick note and got their holiday leave back.