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Its not okay is it? sitting/ standing in the shopping part of the trolley?

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Feminine · 30/09/2013 11:46

I'm sure this has been done many times.

I'm thinking about it today though Grin

If your child is too big to want or can't fit in the seat part you don't then let them climb in the other part of the trolley?

Filthy dirty feet where I'll put my food.

Standing up (dangerous)

I'm not being unreasonable to suggest that its the seat, or walk right?

I saw this with several families yesterday...it got up my nose Wink

Oh and I know there are germs everywhere... this makes it worse

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TSSDNCOP · 02/10/2013 14:39

Sorry OP, doesn't even blip on my Giveashitameter Grin

fromparistoberlin · 02/10/2013 14:42

i do it ALL THE FUCKING TIME. it either that ir have him (a) break the seat or (b) run away/trip people

get over it
#I however sterilise his shoes before hand Grin

nappyaddict · 02/10/2013 15:16

Feminine

I am surprised that if you have a child with an invisible disability that your opinion is it's the seat or walk. My son, has ASD, you probably couldn't tell unless you had a conversation with him or saw him flap and hum. Sitting in the trolley is a last resort. First he helps me push the trolley. If he runs off or bashes the trolley into people it's reins on. If he then gets down on the floor and refuses to walk it's in the trolley. I could then turn the corner with him happily settled sitting down in the trolley and walk passed you. You would then think "Grrr I really hate it when people sit their kids in the trolley" without knowing the reason why.

MakeHayIsAWhaleNow · 02/10/2013 16:54

Grin at Giveashitmeter .

ilovexmastime I challenge you to a trolley race up the confectionary aisle....two children in trolley mandatory, of course.

MissDD1971 · 02/10/2013 19:24

OK - what about - and I do this sometimes and save the plastic bags - if you put say broccoli or apples loose in the trolley. THEY don't have packaging.

I'm being a bit pedantic here... Smile

I honestly do hope the trollies get cleaned once in a while.

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Feminine · 02/10/2013 19:27

nappy I understand. It just works with mine :)

I have said many a time here, that I don't actually judge. I just don't like it.

I'm sure I do lots of things that would appear wrong/odd to others! Grin

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MissDD1971 · 02/10/2013 19:32

I'm BAACCCKKK! I didn't mean any harm by my comments what on page 11!

But I do think that say like in USA where they have special trollies for SN kids that should be introduced in UK.

and I don't see anything wrong in differentiating slightly between SN and non Special Needs but what do you call them? And not what do you call them in a nasty way. I'm not being horrid and trying to pick holes here. my mum was a SENCO - I KNOW that SN kids can look etc normal.

I'm going on what I know and see about kids I know who have SN, which are autism, cleft palate and slight deafness. Should I include dyslexia in there I don't know. oh and I also used to go for a blind school for kids. anything else?!

but don't try to tell me please that I am insensitive towards SN kids ESPECIALLY if you can't be bothered to read the thread and where I stuck up for them earlier. THERE. Smile

MissDD1971 · 02/10/2013 19:35

Can I just clarify here?!

I'm getting confused re kids sitting IN the main trolley part and sitting in the seat that comes with the trolley.

Apart from 1 or 2 kids I've seen sitting IN main trolley part I haven't seen that many do that...

AnaisHendricks · 02/10/2013 19:39

I use neuro-typical to differentiate between DS and people without autism but it depends on the disability.

It's also nicer to refer to people as having SN rather than being SN.

And I also use the plastic bags. Tesco can afford it Wink and I recycle them to freeze things in.

MissDD1971 · 02/10/2013 19:47

oh that's good thanks Anais. Smile

thanks also for the point re having and being. I get so confused with what's PC and what's not.

yeah I used to do that with the plastic bags too. what I WISH the supermarkets would do (a whole other post) is introduce LESS packaging and also brown paper bags at till (like Safeways used to have). I guess you can't have them in supermarket with food as they'd think you were stealing off them.....

missmarplestmarymead · 02/10/2013 20:09

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missmarplestmarymead · 02/10/2013 20:19

Box of smarties to the first who comes along saying their child has special needs. Not every woeful parent has a child with special needs: may are just lazy arsed entitled sods. presumably, they let their shod child run around the worktops and tables at home. if they do=gross and if they don't..why not? could it possibly be the same reason as the rest of us don't want them in shopping trollies.

LouiseAderyn · 02/10/2013 20:19

I would say it is the opposite of inadequate parenting to put yoyr child in the trolley if it a)makes the trip more fun for the kids and b) keeps them out of the way of other people's basket's, which are nirmally held at their head height.

I have no intention of internet shopping, just because some people are miserable buggers!

hazeyjane · 02/10/2013 20:20

That is a huge amount of vitriol in one post, missmarples. Is that directed at all the parent's here, whether their children have sn or are nt? Do only 'inadequate parents' have days when their children play up in the supermarket?

LouiseAderyn · 02/10/2013 20:21

Sorry for appalling spelling - am on my phone.

AnaisHendricks · 02/10/2013 20:28

I said it on page one missmarples. There were others, but I was definitely first.

I would tell you what I would like you to do with your Smarties but I am too polite.

ozymandiusking · 02/10/2013 20:29

I have in the past raised an objection at the check out when the shopper in front, had a child in the body of the trolley. I said that if they had trodden in dog dirt, this could transmit from their shoes to the wires in the trolley and on to your food packaging.
When in the process of putting the food away one could be unaware of this and touch food that was packaged and also un packaged. I doesn't bear thinking about. On that occasion Tesco closed the checkpot and cleaned the conveyer belt, and I moved to another checkout.
You people need to get a grip of your children, and MAKE them do as they are told.
Not allow them to run around,push trolleys, and generally misbehave.

missmarplestmarymead · 02/10/2013 20:30

It's directed, not at parents of children with special needs, but at lazy parents. if those parents don't let their children stand on worktops in the kitchen with dirty shoes on, then why is it ok to put them where other people have to put their shopping. Whining that the children will behave in an even worse manner if they don't do it takes some brass neck and unfortunately, there is quite a lot of it glinting on this thread. maybe they should attend parenting classes or ask the child's teacher how they cope.

it's a dirty habit but so is spitting and farting in public and I guess there will always be those who put a fancied right to do so above the rest of society. Vitriol, not at all, disgust at dirty habits accompanied by a lot of hand wringing...yes.

PrincessScrumpy · 02/10/2013 20:35

I went to Lidl for the first time last week - no twin trolly meant 2 2 year olds in the trolly - wouldn't do it by choice and I won't be returning. Germ wise - trollies are kept outside where birds can poop on them, foxes wee up against them - why do you presume they would be clean if it weren't for toddler feet?!
I can't imagine my 5year old going in a trolly (where would I put the food?) But if she did it might be because she's unwell/injured her leg/foot but I still need food and she won't fit the seat bit.

AnaisHendricks · 02/10/2013 20:37

Yes but your Smartie comment was a tad patronising, no?

As if happens, (you have clearly not RTFT) we had polite and reasonable discourse about the lack of varied and accessible transport for children with SN. It was all very positive. Bit of a divergence from the topic, but explains why some children are travelling in this manner.

Others have their reasons and have pointed them out and parents of children with SN are also allowed to say why they do it.

breatheslowly · 02/10/2013 20:42

I'm coming round to the idea of letting your children sit in the main part of the trolley. I won't be letting DD do it as I personally don't think it is safe and I don't think I could rely on her to stay sitting. But if you think you can rely on your DC to sit still in the trolley then fine - if they are sitting in it then my DD probably won't notice and won't have a meltdown over not being allowed to do it. Jumping in and out, riding it on the outside and swinging from it like a monkey - I still don't agree with, as it just isn't safe and my DD notices and wants to do the same. And I don't think I have seen anyone posting here to say that it's best to let their DC (with or without SN) clamber about all over a trolley. So why do we still see people do it?

CrohnicallyLurking · 02/10/2013 20:45

I thought we did have trolleys for children with SN? At least, the majority of the supermarkets where I am have a couple of trolleys with a large, nicely padded seat across the width of the trolley, it is lower down than a regular child seat and there's nothing in the way so you can sit directly in it without being lifted in iyswim. And it has a waist strap same as a child seat. So I figured it was for children that for whatever reason needed to sit in the trolley but were too large for the toddler seats.

MakeHayIsAWhaleNow · 02/10/2013 20:45

I'd respond, missmarple, but I cba to feed the troll.

missmarplestmarymead · 02/10/2013 20:49

My comments were not directed at parents of children with special needs. is a poster no longer allowed to say that children are badly behaved because some children have special needs. it does seem to me like a handy way of shutting down a discussion. My comments are directed at posters who see it as a right and bleat that trollies are dirty anyway so they will make them dirtier. Is that acceptable? Some entitled gits will say yes and the rest of us will disagree.

missmarplestmarymead · 02/10/2013 20:50

Make Hay.......really....grow up.