to think that 8.30 am is too early to skin up

[drwitch]

it seems to be getting more and more common round us (dads doing it while walking their children to school, people doing it before opening up their shops for day)

I am just really surprised that it is done so much in public

[allforoneandoneforall]

or

[Sinful1]

I don't mind what people take but drinking, smoking or taking anything while/before driving pisses me off no end. Drivers seem.determined to kill us bikers when.theyre sober let alone high or drunk.

I still do not understand why during they school run, when traffic is terrible and you have your DC in they car people decide to drive at their worst, todays idiots, have been lots on mobiles, one woman doing her make up while her daughter in they front seat was leaning over they back to hit her brother (or friend I guess) and they best I've seen in a while someone trying to eat a bloody kebab, where they he'll do you even get a kebab they time of they morning?

Tempted to start knocking on.thier window or just taking their wing mirrors off as I go past

[rumtumtugger]

Allforone, why did you have a problem with being referred to as 'the white one' by your foster parents then? If you don't mind being called white.

[allforoneandoneforall]

I didn't mind it, i was making a point that they didn't even know my name and that the same would not be tolerated vice versa (ps - vice versa chocs are back in da shops!)

[Tailtwister]

YANBU. It's bad form at any time if you have children imo and that's coming from someone who used to smoke a lot and often before 8.30 (when I was a student)!

[Talkinpeace]

hardboiledpossum
Unless you smoke regularly then a single token on a spliff can leave you feeling completely out of it.
you seem incredibly well informed about the impact of different substances on different people's bloodstreams.

So do you think parents should be allowed wine with a family picnic in the park?
Cigarettes?
Prescription painkillers that leave them zonked?
Double espresso?
Red Bull?
Hash brownies?

you see cannabis (despite the tabloid hype) is mild compared with a lot of what is legal.

[japonicabumsplatt]

OK, this is my first hand experience of people smoking skunk...I would have trouble spotting the difference between someone smoking skunk and someone in a psychotic episode..FACT.
If a parent was stood at the school gates chugging on whiskey bottle whatever....would that not be only antisocial, harmful to themselves and possibly those around them
These people smoking cannabis for much of the day may feel perfectly fit to drive though perhaps others may differ.
If you drink all day everyday you ahve a problem, but according to others you do not if you smoke weed, it being so harmless and all.
The sale of "harmless" weed is based on criminal gangs.
It is a gateway drug.
It dulls reactions and responses to others. Imagine having a dull unresponsive stoned parent, bit like a dependent user of any other substance

[AvonCallingBarksdale]

Rocking up to the school gates with a spliff of can in the hand is not a good look, but you wouldn't report someone to SS for having a glass of wine in the evening, yet a spliff is looked on by some as the devil itself

Well, to be fair, I wouldn't expect someone to rock up at the school gate in the morning with wine either!

And the bitch/Chinese bitch example is skewed. The person's nationality is irrelevant to their shortcomings! They're not a bitch because they're Chinese, any more than they would be if they were French. It doesn't help the description, does it, other than to imply that them being Chinese is in some way connected to them being a bitch. ergo it is unnecessary to mention their nationality.

[japonicabumsplatt]

A white wine spritzer? Same as skunk then?
It is not tabloid hype. I have worked with people using skunk and it is making not only their lives a misery but others around them.
Skunk is only one side of the issue, many other people use cannabis moderately. but to consider all cannabis as "mild" is simplistic. there are as many grey areas in this as exist with "legal" substances.

[CanadianJohn]

Oh boy, ain't life fun.

A friend was criticized at work by referring to a co-worker as "the Chinese guy" - my friend didn't know the guy's name, how else was he to describe him?

Another friend was highly insulted by being referred to as an Afro-American. He is from Fiji, an awful long way from Africa.

I personally see "black", "white", etc as being descriptive. Don't know what people would call me... I'm sort of a pinky-white, but more tanned in the summer. I think most people describe me as "the old guy", if they refer to me at all.

Half of the kids I work with are "Chinese", but whether they are actually from China, I wouldn't know. The other half are "South Asian", covering India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, etc.

BTW, the kids don't seem to have any problems with race, at least to a non-professional observer without an ax to grind.

Bodes well for the future.

[Talkinpeace]

japonica
^The sale of "harmless" weed is based on criminal gangs.
It is a gateway drug.^
Which is why it should be legalised, regulated and taxed.
The vast bulk of the cannabis consumed in the UK is grown in the UK now - not like the good old days of hashish imported from Morocco and the Lebanon.
It would be easy to regulate and control.
MOST cannabis users fit it around getting on with their working lives.
MOST people who drink alcohol do exactly the same.

[hardboiledpossum]

talkin i don't read any tabloids and i don't claim to have all the answers. I did smoke weed a bit in my teenage years and at uni, i am mid 20s, so not that long ago. I can tell you that the weed i came across was anything but mild.

[japonicabumsplatt]

I have seen cases of illegal immigrants (trafficed) sat in houses tending a crop of cannabis plants.
I agrees, it should be legalised, no doubt about it. But can we not kid ourselves on any further that it is all lovely and hugs. cos it isn't that simple a picture to define.
Would the government legalise Skunk? There woiuld be controls over quality and strength as exist with alcohol. I doubt there could be a credible argument for Skunk and it would remain in the hands of those who would see it profitable enough to grow and sell illegally

[landrover]

Ehhhhmmmm, I ve never heard of the expression "skin up" , I take it its not putting face cream on, but everybody here seems to know what it means!

[AnaisHendricks]

NOW I know what piglet's posts up-thread mean. I thought she was posting on the wrong thread about face cream and until I read your post

[Sinful1]

"OK, this is my first hand experience of people smoking skunk...I would have trouble spotting the difference between someone smoking skunk and someone in a psychotic episode..FACT"

Guessing you don't have first hand experience of psychotic episodes then?

Someone stones, a little slow, kinda hard to converse with and a little out of it, clearly impaired but still aware of reality

psychotic episode, detached from reality unable to differentiate their internal delusions from true reality, clearly believing falsehoods to be true.
May be depressive, anxious, paranoid or violent in nature.

That's my first hand experience, which included last Friday night where my girlfriend had a "mild" episode which included flash backs to childhood abuse, screaming they house down breaking things, completely unaware of who I was, she's left some quite massive deep bleeding scratches over my face and neck. Fortunately they neighbours phoned they police thinking that I was beating her/attacking her, because I couldn't let her go long enough to phone them myself for both our safety.

Fortunately them police turning up snapped her out of it after a long chat with they frankly lovely officers she'd calmed down.enough and they agreed she didn't need to be commited and id stay to make sure she's ok.

There is a huge differences between pot and psychosis, lsd/shrooms would be closer as people may belive they hallucinations to be true but not pot

[Wannabestepfordwife]

Yanbu I have no issue with people having a smoke in the evening at home but smoking it on the school run is wrong I would say the same about someone drinking alcohol

[MymbleBaratheonBendsTheKnee]

Agreed I have no problem with it, but at 8.30 in the morning I occasionally indulge a little myself but would never do it in front of my kids.

I think it should be legal to grow it at home for personal consumption only. Of course that will never happen!

[Talkinpeace]

I think it should be legal to grow it at home for personal consumption only. Of course that will never happen
Read the link I posted to the Economist.
It will happen, within 5 years.
Cannabis has only been illegal in the UK for less than my lifetime anyway.

[givemeaboost]

I have always said theres a big difference to drug use + drug abuse, the latter covering all aspects of irresponsible weed smoking eg in the car, around kids, on the school run etc.

Many many people smoke it (to the poster who said upthread theyre glad its not round their school-I bet there are parents at your dcs school who smoke it-often its the people you least expect in that situation) and still function fine and lead a normal life- just making the point here that getting baked on the school run is not the norm amongst weed smokers!!

[MadeOfStarDust]

skinning up round here means putting on the birth control prior to sex..... you can imagine my confusion.... "Dads doing it on the school run" "rolling your own" "done so much in public"..... well I would be bloomin surprised!!

[AnaisHendricks]

Ha hahahahahaha! That's even funnier than the moisturiser interpretation.

[greenbananas]

I am finding this thread very strange. And I am not even stoned

OP, I think yanbu - and I speak as one who was sticking the skins together within half an hour of waking up for about 10 years I was always stoned during university lectures, don't know how I managed to graduate, and then was always slightly stoned at work (crappy temping jobs), although my work was adequate and I don't think anyone ever noticed.

I stopped smoking in the morning when I started working with children, and I stopped smoking altogether when I had children of my own.

Even if weed was harmless (and I know that it isn't), it's illegal at the moment, and that sends a really bad message to children. and I fail to see how you can be fully responsible and emotionally "there" when you are slightly stoned. Also agree with the person who said it is bad for the neighborhood as a whole to have weed smoked on the streets.

[MymbleBaratheonBendsTheKnee]

Thanks TalkinPeace I'll have a read