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AIBU to want my DH to sort out his snoring

47 replies

flyingwidow · 15/09/2013 07:24

I am sleeping on the sofa as DH was snoring before his head even touched the pillow last night! This is an ongoing thing and 4 nights out of 7 (on average) I end up on the spare bed. But we have guests this weekend so, embarrassingly, I am relegated to the sofa.

His snoring is LOUD. I already sleep with earplugs. Tbf, I am a light sleeper... BUT, I have bought him things to try- which have been relegated to the drawer- eg. Nasal strips. They were pretty effective- but he just doesn't want to wear them. If I kick him mid-sleep it helps, but only for 2 minutes Confused.

I don't want to be the couple who have separate rooms! I love waking up with him!!!

I just want him to take it seriously and sort it out! He is not over weight so not expecting a radical diet- just to try some more 'remedies' and take a bit more responsibility for my suffering!

AIBU?

OP posts:
birdybear · 15/09/2013 07:29

My dh is the same, but i kick him out. He is the snorer, so he can go and snore somewhere else! Especially as he is the same as yours, won't use things i have bought him to stop it.

Screwfox · 15/09/2013 07:29

Booze ?

flyingwidow · 15/09/2013 07:31

Was quite a bit of booze being consumed last night! But, it is not the determining factor- as he snores irrespective of consumption!!

OP posts:
MrsWembley · 15/09/2013 07:33

No, YANBU!

My DP has woken up people in the next room before now. He just thinks it's funny.Hmm

Until, that is, he half wakes whilst I'm trying to turn him and starts swearing at me. That makes me angry coz I'm the one who's been disturbed and I always find it hard to get back to sleep quickly, whereas he's asleep again before his head's touched the pillow!

Angry
Screwfox · 15/09/2013 07:34

IMO it's booze. Stress/ tiredness and weight

PractialJoke · 15/09/2013 07:34

I have a friend who's family suffered like this for years.

He finally went to the GP who referred him to a specialist and he now sleeps in a mask that pushes air through his nasal passages and he doesn't snore.

But more than that, he actually gets a proper night's sleep. Obviously the rest of the family sleep much better too, but he hadn't realised how little sleep he was actually getting. He looks and feels so much better, he's lost weight and his blood pressure has improved. Your DH needs to get this sorted for the sake of his own health. Would that help motivate him to take action, if he won't do it for you iyswim?

My friend tried all the other "remedies" without any success Sad

Olbasoil · 15/09/2013 08:02

My DH uses a CPAPS as well, we all sleep better now.

Doubtfuldaphne · 15/09/2013 08:49

I am the same-have been sleeping on the sofa for 2 years most nights because of dh's snoring. He finally went to the gp and has been referred to te sleep centre at the hospital as he actually stops breathing a lot too.
I hope he will get this sorted for you and for himself soon!

chubbymummy · 15/09/2013 08:57

I feel your pain. Some nights I could easily be tempted to put a pillow over his head and hold it down (I wouldn't actually do it before someone flames me for suggesting it).

elcranko · 15/09/2013 09:08

Agree with others that it should be your DH who sleeps on the sofa since he's not even willing to even try to tackle the problem.

Give him a thin blanket and leave the heating off. Hopefully after a couple of cold nights on the sofa that nasal strip won't seem like such a bad idea Smile

SkinnybitchWannabe · 15/09/2013 09:10

My DH is at this moment in Papworth hospitals sleep clinic getting a CPAP mask (youngest son calls it a trunk!) after snoring like a pig since he was young.
I kicked him out my bedroom years ago.
He never gets a proper nights sleep and is totally exhusted (sp) so we're both hoping this sorts him out.

Maybe your OH should see his doctor.

Lilacroses · 15/09/2013 09:11

We have been in the same situation. Dp is a little overweight which I think might be making it worse. Anyway she got a mouth guard thing and it has reduced the snoring by about 90 %.

Tattiesthroughthebree · 15/09/2013 09:12

We're in separate bedrooms because of this and it's rubbish. I definitely think it's bad for our marriage. DH would rather have no sex than try a nasal strip!

Kamchatka · 15/09/2013 09:18

I read somewhere that male snoring plus the social pressure for a couple to share a bed (i.e. it looks like your relationship is in trouble if you maintain separate rooms) is yet another way women are oppressed - passively in this case, I am sure no man would actively think "I know what I'll do, I'll make sure she has to sleep next to my snoring every night, that'll keep her tired and irritable so I can get the upper hand." Although I suppose most sexist shite is passive...

I don't really have an opinion on that but I do know that my dh sees it as something he can't help, therefore expects sympathy from me. He almost can't believe it when I don't sympathise. For years he failed to take any responsibility for sorting it out and it was affecting the way I saw him. I explained that (quite vehemently) and he got some nasal strips (they did work but not consistently) and lost some weight which has pretty much done the trick. It's drinking and being overweight that does it.

PiratesMam · 15/09/2013 09:21

They get so embarrassed about it though. My DH can hardly bring himself to talk about it! We don't have a spare bedroom but if we did I would happily have a room each, it would change my life. Doesn't mean you can't have sex either. DH is a lot worse when he's exhausted/been drinking/overweight/stressed. Kicking him doesn't make a lot of difference other than to make me feel temporarily better.

jeansthatfit · 15/09/2013 10:25

I don't want to hijack thread, OP.... but please please, can someone talk to me about cpap masks and how you get one, and how you got your dp to sort it out?

DP snores appallingly loudly. We lived in a small terraced house before and you could hear it all over the house, it actually vibrated through floors, so sleeping elsewhere was only a partial solution... and you can hear it through ear plugs. I never got as far as leaving at 3 in the morning to check into a hotel to get away from it, but I came close.

DP IS overweight and very sensitive about it. He has lost some weight but is nowhere near ideal bmi - he has never been, this is a battle in itself, and as I say, he is v sensitive about it. He has very high blood pressure, poor sleep habits and is usually tired in the morning. He doesn't drink much at all, but obvs it is worse when he does.

I recorded him snoring - he got angry and refused to believe it was him (he had maintained previously I was making a fuss, I should just wake him up if it was disturbing me - but he is snoring again within a minute, and why should I be awake to wake him up??). So I videoed him snoring, so he couldn't deny it was him. He seemed very shocked, and got a bit angry with me (why was I trying to humiliate/ridicule him etc).

I lost it at this point and shouted, telling him I was so sick of broken sleep just because of his snoring etc. He went and bought nasal strips/snore spray/a snore guard thing designed to wear in his mouth at night.

It helped a bit - but not much. He can still literally stop breathing, his chest heaves up and down and when he finally breathes, it's like a drowning man gasping. I have told him this is sleep apneoa. He doesn't really react to this - after all, I'm not a doctor etc.

Now we have moved house, to a bigger house, and he sleeps in a different room on a different floor - we have a toddler who tends to sleep with me and a breastfeeding baby I do night feeds with - so there's kind of no room, literally, for him, and I find it easier without him there.

On another floor, I can still hear him snoring at times. Sometimes after a night feed I have to go and wake him after I have fed and put baby down. He is always flat on his back, gasping and roaring away. He seems to take his snoreguard out in his sleep too - he usually starts with it in but loses it at some point in the night.

Pre-children my sleep reserves were bigger - I guess I just coped. Now it seems ridiculous, and I cannot imagine allowing him to share my bed again, ever. Assuming children sleep in their own room at some point. It's not just the snoring, it's the 'pre-snoring' - grunting, very heavy breathing that suddenly turns into snoring - I can't do it. I actually find sharing a room/bed with a toddler and a baby preferable in terms of sleep.

He usually just says 'I can't help it' and gets embarrassed and angry at me if I tell him to do something about it. But I'm going to have to insist, forcefully if need be. We are quite limited atm with small children anyway - but we can't go and stay with friends overnight, because he is now aware it can keep people awake and is ashamed about this. Also I would not go to a hotel where I had to share a bed with him now.

Problem is, he's also bad at looking after his health/dealing with doctors anyway. Where do you start? Does he go to the GP? Will they take him seriously, or just tell him I need earplugs? (doesn't work)

And how do you get a cpap machine? Aren't they noisy? my ds had a tiny one in scbu for a while - I cannot see my partner ever agreeing to sleep in something like that - are adult cpaps similar?

Olbasoil · 15/09/2013 10:42

You need a referral to a sleep clinic from your GP. Dh spent a night there, was assessed a week later and given a CPAP machine. He had regular checks for approx. 2 years now only goes for maintainance for the machine, although they can send parts through the post. ( it has never broken but pieces on the mask and the tube need replacing ) It took Dh 2 years to accept he had a problem. I'll ask him later the result of his assessment but it was something like he was waking up every 45 seconds ( not properly awake but jolting awake ) It was hell for him

ettiketti · 15/09/2013 10:49

You can, but if he's not overweight don't hold out much hope for your GP to help. I sent my DH as he suddenly started snoring 6mths or so ago and quite frankly, I'm sick of it!
He's in perfect health, not an ounce overweight with no physical reason for snoring. He's been told to use nasal strips, which he already was sometimes but they're not cheap!

trinity0097 · 15/09/2013 10:51

My hubby's life was totally changed when he started on a CPAP, no overnight hospital thing for us, he had a home sleep study. CPAP immediately issued, took a few weeks of tantrums to get used to the loopy thing (you need to fasten it tighter than the nurse who fitted it told him too!) but he has now managed to lose 5 stone because he is now awake in the day. I also sleep far better as I am now asleep at night! I've also lost 3 stone since he started it!

Get him to the GP ASAP!

DisgraceToTheYChromosome · 15/09/2013 11:09

jeansthatfit

Your DH has classic severe OSA. It will shorten his life. Unfortunately, it may shorten a lot of other people's lives.

OSA is a notifiable medical condition for professional drivers, plant operators, and any profession where ignoring it would increase risk to life. There have multiple fatalities when OSA sufferers fall asleep at the wheel.

You'll need to be blunt. Sorry.

Wellwobbly · 15/09/2013 11:12

Bets are that DH snores when he is on his back? And that if he is on his side the snoring stops?

The Pony Club jab:

When he is on his back and starts, jab him viciously in the ribs, saying in a sweet and calm voice, roll over [name/endearment]. If he does not respond, do it again, until he does. Sweet and calm voice must not alter!

Then, 'spoon' him tightly with your arm around his waist to stop him rolling back onto his back. Double prizes, you get hugs out of it.

This is a kind and gentle way of training him to listen to you and roll over, and it takes all the stress out of it.

Its how horses and cows are trained to move at the sound of a voice. If you push them, they just push back.

Good luck, OP! Forget about shaming and power struggle, he is asleep. It doesn't work.

KingRollo · 15/09/2013 11:14

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Mumsyblouse · 15/09/2013 11:21

jeans I also agree that your husband has the classic signs of sleep apnea (so not just the drill-like snoring but the stopping breathing) and basically this means he's deprived of oxygen every night. He's not safe to drive and is at risk of having an early heart attack or stroke, perhaps cutting his life down by 20 years. He's waking up hundreds of times a night and getting no good quality sleep.

Sorry to be blunt, but this is a medical condition which makes the sufferer feel terrible, puts him at risk of death (so not just a trivial issue) and makes the rest of the family tired and exhausted listening to it.

He should go to the doctor (you could go to, it's very helpful for them to hear from the partner who has more idea what is going on than the person themselves) and insist on a sleep study. Tell them that he is stopping breathing and gasping for breath when he does wake. Do not be fobbed off by anything less than a sleep study, and if he has apnea, a CPAP machine. You probably can go private but it would be very expensive, the machines are hundreds and you need a prescription, the NHS has clinics to deal with this at all the major hospitals.

Good luck, but don't be put off another 6 months by his excuses. You need to make him realise he could be much happier and feel less tired, there are lots of positives once this is treated.

longingforsomesleep · 15/09/2013 11:23

My name says it all! Tried GP here - even played a recording on my phone of DH snoring. The GP's response was that he knew what snoring sounded like and had I tried using earplugs or sleeping in a different room .....

DH not overweight, doesn't drink much, snores whatever position he's in etc etc. My mild insomnia has, over recent years, become full blown and I've been prescribed all manner of sleeping tablets. Visiting relatives at the moment (on my own) and - guess what? - I'm sleeping fine.

He always says, I should wake him and he will go downstairs to the sofa, but he's always in such a deep bloody sleep and I'm always so wide awake I just give in and go down myself. Am really feeling quite desperate about the whole thing.

RaspberryRuffle · 15/09/2013 11:40

Oh I feel your pain! DH wakes himself up sometimes as his snoring is so loud. I need my sleep to function in the day, just 5 or 6 hours a night is enough for me but the snoring makes it impossible.
The nasal strips helped a bit, I put extra surgical tape on to stretch them really tight and make sure they didn't come off!
Having partial success with throat sprays, he does gag and moan but I don't care. He still snores but a bit less, I know if he has used it or not - if not I wake him up to take a dose.
Other things that helped slightly were changing the mattress and pillows to memory foam ones. I was told to sew a ping pong ball on the back of his PJs so he can't lie on his back...if anyone's DH/DP actually wears PJs might be worth a try...

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