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To think that my son wearing girls clothes is normal childs play he's 6

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ghostspirit · 11/09/2013 19:40

my son wears my daughters clothes a lot. i think its normal childs play and that he will grow out of it at some point.

my friend thinks i should stop him from doing it and tell him its not normal. and thinks he will grow up as a cross dresser maybe even want a sex change. i said if that's what he chooses to do then that's his choice. i think she is over thinking over a 6 year old dressing up.

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MurderOfGoths · 11/09/2013 22:30

Awful isn't it Quangle :(

Pachacuti · 11/09/2013 22:32

But the point is, trousers never used to be unisex. You just think of them as unisex now because we've moved past the (to us) bizarre attitude of "I wouldn't let a daughter of mine wear trousers" or "if my wife or mother or sister came in the house wearing trousers, I'd feel embarrassed for them, think it looked stupid, and just inwardly cringe."

MurderOfGoths · 11/09/2013 22:36

If I told you that there used to be laws banning women in Europe from wearing trousers due to it being seen as indecent, would you say that made any sense?

ghostspirit · 11/09/2013 22:40

it does not make sence but guess its just the way it was... wat about men in kilts is that wired or ok

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allforoneandoneforall · 11/09/2013 22:41

its not socially acceptable or "the norm" for a boy to wear a dress - trousers are completely off topic and a poor comparison. If I went to work in trousers, fine, if a bloke come in wearing a dress, laughing stock! Fact - There is a massive difference

allforoneandoneforall · 11/09/2013 22:41

its not socially acceptable or "the norm" for a boy to wear a dress - trousers are completely off topic and a poor comparison. If I went to work in trousers, fine, if a bloke come in wearing a dress, laughing stock! Fact - There is a massive difference

MurderOfGoths · 11/09/2013 22:45

How are they a poor comparison, they never used to be socially acceptable or the norm for women. What's the difference other than we've moved on with one but not the other?

And of course ignoring that men can wear kilts.. or certain cultures men will wear tunics/robes as daily wear.. then there have been fashions in the last few decades where some high profile/fashionable men have worn skirts..

ghostspirit · 11/09/2013 22:47

this is not a bloke going to work though its a 6 year old child.... there is a transexual/cross dresser who works local to me. he seems to be doing ok

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ghostspirit · 11/09/2013 22:48

oh yes murder. and some men are starting to wear make up to

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allforoneandoneforall · 11/09/2013 22:48

if you want your DS to be a pioneer to make cross-dressing become the social norm, good luck to ya - I however would not let my son embarrass himself when he wouldn't even be aware that he was making himself look silly

allforoneandoneforall · 11/09/2013 22:50

you are the one saying how socially acceptable it now is for women to wear trousers so are you saying if enough boys wear bloody tutus and princess frocks it could also be the norm - Otherwise why would you compare them

MurderOfGoths · 11/09/2013 22:51

Well yes.. how else do you think norms are established?

allforoneandoneforall · 11/09/2013 22:51

why not the other way around? Well if enough of you let your boys run around like fairys then maybe it will be ok in their generation - seems to be what you are advocating

ghostspirit · 11/09/2013 22:52

if he is not aware then how can he be embarrassed.. i doubt a 6 year old dressing up can be called cross dressing.

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allforoneandoneforall · 11/09/2013 22:52

if you want to pioneer your boys to lead the way in changing the norm, good luck, i'm sure they will be horrified in a few years time

MurderOfGoths · 11/09/2013 22:53

The point of dressing up, as far as I'm aware, is to be something you are not. So nothing should be off limits.

ghostspirit · 11/09/2013 22:53

my son can be a fairy if he likes

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kim147 · 11/09/2013 22:56

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allforoneandoneforall · 11/09/2013 22:56

Of course he's prob not embarrassed he's only 6, but if he carries on and does that at school when he's a bit older he'll be laughed at! and you know it's true, seriously! I know it's innocent and not cross dressing, he's just innocently playing, but you lot are talking about changing the norm and making as socially acceptable for boys to wear tutu's as it is for girls to wear trousers. It'll never happen. Men just don't have the legs for them, and no one want to see a hairy bloke in a tutu now do they! I'm just trying to say that I would seriously suggest to steer him away from it before he gets any older, for his own sake

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Quangle · 11/09/2013 22:59

that's it ghostspirit. My son can be whoever he wants to be, now at 4 and later when he's grown-up. If he wants to wear a dress all his life, he can. It won't be easy but I won't make it any easier by trying to get him not to because of my own issues.

We claim we're protecting boys because we don't want them to be teased but if it's who they are, or who they are for a period of time, we do far more damage by letting them know that on some level it's unacceptable to us.

Wearing a dress as a grown man is transgressive - it absolutely is. But if my son wanted to do that I'd find a way to shut my inner voice up and make myself ok with it.

MurderOfGoths · 11/09/2013 23:00

The point we were making is that once upon a time girls would be laughed at for being odd enough to want to wear trousers, despite the fact that there is no actual good logical for girls not to wear trousers. The only reason used was that it wasn't "the norm".

Same as there is no good logical for boys not to wear skirts.

And there's even less reason for boys to be able to play dress up in whichever way they see fit. Let them play for god's sake without putting daft illogical stigma into the equation.

ghostspirit · 11/09/2013 23:01

i don't know... some blokes have pretty good legs. they dont have dressing up stuff in his class. but if they did it does not mean they would laugh at him. might laugh with him. i don't know really but even adults wear womans clothes such as panto.

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MurderOfGoths · 11/09/2013 23:03

It's crazy isn't it kim and yet people put such stock by these hugely changeable things.