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To not want my 2 year old to be shouted at by MIL

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lilithtime · 11/09/2013 11:44

Sorry if this ends up a bit long. I usually get on pretty well with my MIL. She's a good person and has had a lot to deal with and I know she does do her best. She and FIL are the legal guardians of two of BIL's children as he is frankly useless and their mum was neglectful so they have lived with IL's since the ages of 5 and 6. They are now 12 and 14.

MIL is a shouter and a smacker I have never felt comfortable with the way she screams and shouts at them, particularly the youngest, who is a girl. She gets on much better with the boy and he gets away with murder but the girl has it much tougher. All of his family have noticed how she is treated compared to the other grandkids but nobody says anything to MIL.

I've tried to be sympathetic and as I have a 12 yr old DD as well I have talked with MIL about different strategies to deal with pre teen moods etc and what has worked with me and she has opened up to me a bit about how tough she finds it. A few months ago she told me that she had hit DNiece across the face when she gave her some attitude. I was shocked and expressed that I thought that was wrong.

DH is one of 3 boys and his mum has always parented like that and he says she has mellowed over the years if anything. His brothers are both a waste of space, both have been in prison and are a constant source of stress to her. The dad of the kids has two more kids and is abusive to his partner so MIL looks after the younger ones a lot for DIL as she feels guilty for his behaviour so she has her hands full.

We live 30 miles away and MIL has looked after DS (2.4) one day a week since he was a baby. DS is a handful for me but has always been better behaved for his nan. He went through a phase of hitting and I tried a few ways of dealing with it, namely the naughty step and being firm with saying NO and quickly realised that he was too young as it just didn't work. He refuses to say sorry and it just ends up a battle so I now either ignore or distract him, which defuses it quicker.

DS is very tall for his age and looks like a 4 year old and his language is quite good so he looks capable of understanding more than he actually does.

Last week I arrived to pick DS up at tea time and we had an incident that has upset me and caused all sorts of issues and I really need to know if IABU.

DS started playing up as soon as I got there and I'd only been there 10 minutes when he picked up a handful of gravel (we were sat in the garden) and chucked it. I told him not to and would normally have then distracted him but MIL told me 'This is how we deal with this' then immediately raised her voice and got down in his face and told him not to do it again. Of course DS then did it again straight away. MIL went mad and really shouted at him and then dragged him into the house to sit in the corner. She then came back out and DS followed, crying and having a tantrum then he proceeded to do it again with the gravel. She really screamed at him and dragged him back in the house again. I just sat there frozen. My ex was abusive and really hate shouting and screaming like that. DS was hysterical and ended up sobbing into the sofa as I was just sat there like an idiot not knowing what to do.

We left just after that and I haven't spoken to MIL since. Every time I have thought of taking DS again I feel really anxious and I just don't know what to do about it. He was due to go today and I should have just lied to DH and said he had a temp or something but I stupidly told him the truth and we have now fallen out. I have texted MIL and told her he isn't feeling well.

We are having a few issues in our marriage recently and this is not a good time for this to come up. Am I being U and / or precious to not want my toddler to be shouted at like that? And what the hell do I do?

Thank you if you managed to read all that. Any advice or perspectives appreciated.

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ProphetOfDoom · 11/09/2013 19:32

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Oblomov · 11/09/2013 20:02

Not that I am condoning your mil behaviour, it is clear you don't want her looking after your ds. Totally fine.
But, your 3 yr old ds deliberately threw gravel 3 times? 3 times? After doing it, being told off, doing it again, tantruming , wailing, and THEN doing it again.
Doesn't that strike anyone as very odd. It does me.

Canthisonebeused · 11/09/2013 20:24

Why would you ha e left your ds with her in the first place.

You do need to look for alternative childcare.

Canthisonebeused · 11/09/2013 20:24

Why would you ha e left your ds with her in the first place.

You do need to look for alternative childcare.

CreatureRetorts · 11/09/2013 20:32

This is a no brainer. Find other childcare.

I don't trust my mum with my children - she offered. No way, no bloody way. Why on earth would you let it happen to your own child.

Also your marriage is a seperate but related issue, but don't be tempted to let MIL look after ds to appease your DH.

hardboiledpossum · 11/09/2013 20:37

oblomov he is 2, not 3. My 2 year old has done similar on a number of occasions, some children are just strong willed.

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MoominMammasHandbag · 11/09/2013 21:39

I have had 4 kids and it doesn't strike me as remotely odd that a 2 year old would throw gravel 3 times after being told not to. DS1 in particular was a real boundary pusher. Getting a big reaction would probably have encouraged him more. Do people genuinely think that 2 year olds can be naughty? They are just babies. No matter how well they can talk or understand speech they simply cannot grasp concepts of right and wrong at that age.

lisylisylou · 11/09/2013 21:58

I personally don't think your mil should look after your ds anymore. Not because of the behaviour she exhibits but it is clear that there are very different styles of raising children. No matter what happens the pair of you are going to clash and you always will do. I personally don't think you should talk to your husband about it as its clear he's very defensive about his mother. Just find a nursery and cite that you would like your ds to socialise with children from your area. The nursery would be much more well equipped to deal with him and he would be so busy there it would be a much more positive environment for your ds. That way you could cut her down a lot more, it would stop the difficulties in your relationship. Then when you do go to your mil's if your ds is naughty you have to swoop in first and pick him up to take him away to a quiet corner then your mil does not have a chance to get involved! That is what I tend to do at my mil's and then it shows who is doing the parenting.

Misspixietrix · 11/09/2013 22:29

Your Poor DN :( OP I think you know that you should no longer leave Ds there. I would be pretty straight forward about It too "I'm not being precious but I really don't like the way you interfere with my discipline of Ds and that from now on you will not be allowing supervised contact". What happens the next time he annoys her by being a typical 2yo a bit mischievous. Would she go even further and just not bother telling you? The whole doingit in front of you in a "see this is how you're meant to do It" is a bit patronising really IMO. You are an adult and she needs to start treating you like one in your own right and allow YOU to be the Parent.

FrogsGoWhat · 12/09/2013 08:17

I must admit when I removed DD from my MIL's care the reason we gave her was that it was too confusing for her to go to different places on different days, and luckily the childminder now had an opening on the day she had her. She accepted it without question.

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