To think no Disney does not have a lot to answer for for your child being rude

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Over the holidays a number of parents of friends of my kids have commented when their kids answer back, to them (the parents) or to others, or have made rude comments, the parents have laughed and responded 'Disney has a lot to answer for with how children now talk to adults', and not repremanded the children.

My dc watch Disney channels and also know not to talk in a rude way. The two are not interlinked.

AIBU to think it's bad parenting (lack of parenting) not the watching of Disney that has created the rudeness?

Muffin the mule - surely he was a good influence?

IMO nickelodeon is much worse in terms of bratish behaviour

In fact my dds have commented on how bratish they all are

And do none of them have parents??

Not necessarily Disney, but I have heard this a lot too.

Its just an excuse for bad parenting. I watched TISWAS as a child, I didnt destroy our house with buckets of water and shaving foam a la The Phantom Flan Flinger.

I used to watch Grange Hill, never once did I walk out of class, skive off, take drugs or organise a pupils revolt!

Why? Because I had been brought up to know that such things are a) stupid and b)unacceptable just have my children have.

Lazy parents who need to blame anyone else but themselves. If there was no TV then it would be their friends fault, their books fault, their comics fault.

Just remembered that I banned Angelina Ballerine much to DD 1's disgust. She was about 6 or 7 when it was on and having ballet lessons. AB was such a fucking brat! I finally pulled the plug when AB bullied her friend into legging it from the elderly babysitter, crashing a fancy dress party they had been told numerous times was for the adults only, wrecked her mums best dress (iirc) and destroying the buffet.

Did she get a major league bollocking? No, she got a cuddle from mummy and allowed to stay at the party. REALLY pissed me off!

I absolutely loathe curious George. Most disobedient entitled stupid monkey, and the show seems to always end with everyone forgiving him for what seems to me to be incredibly wilful naughtiness. Yes, I know it's a monkey. But he needs a smack.

Outnumbered- the curly haired whingey brat Ben. My DS started mimicking his whiney tone so I banned it. (Even though I would soooo have Hugh Dennis)

iCarley -- DD 'picked up' the whingey Sam voice.
And the little girl in Jessie. She says her way too adult lines then you see her glance over for confirmation. It isn't nice.

70is I didnt actually mind Ben, he was about the only honest one in the family. Yes he was a mad headed pita but at least he wasnt the arsey teen who would have lasted 5 seconds in my house if he spoke to me like that, or the bratty little girl. That girl REALLY pissed me off, as if ANYONE would allow an 8 year old to speak to them like that!

I have recently 'banned' dd (8) from watching the Disney /Nicolodean programmes she loves - Icarly, Jessie, wizards of Waverly etc etc
It's not that they made her rude, it's that they encouraged behaviour that was not for , I think, an 8 year old - you know the things teens used to do - the head wagging etc (don't know how to explain properly)

^^ I know exactly what you mean. We have also recently just banned 8yr old dd from these programmes for the same reasons.

OP YABa bitU, it is from these programmes that she has picked up this attitude, but we are addressing it and letting her know that this behaviour is not acceptable. If we were to just shrug our shoulders and blame the Disney channel but do nothing about it then maybe you could call it bad parenting but if the parents are addressing it then it's a bit unfair to label them bad parents.

Mine got ' shut your gob' from Tracey Beaker.

Hahaha I was never allowed to watch itv as a child, because it was unsuitable.

My children only watch cbeebies and cbbc, they don't have any other choices (only freeview).
I don't think you can blame tv for rude children, it isn't that difficult to explain tv is made up and people don't really behave like that.
DS won't read the Horrid Henry books,he was given one as a school reading book so had to read it but he doesn't see what is funny about someone being naughty and mean to his brother.

Then there is a very simple solution for those parents...

"No more Disney Channel for you..."

My children are rude to me and we don't have Disney channel.

They are rude because I'm a rubbish parent.

Of course programmes influence our kids, its just a fact of life. My kids act them out sometimes and if its something naughty then they get punished. It's the same with computer games or they wouldn't have age limits on them would they.

Somebody told me "Its that Hannah Montana!" and I replied "Actually that Tracey Beaker needs a kick up the bum!" But think it's always an excuse as to why your children are rude.

Exactly, when mine quoted Tracey Beaker I just banned it, simple

" It's the same with computer games"

I wouldn't know: we don't have either Sky TV or computer games in the house. They both look rather vile. I've never seen a computer game advertised which looked anything other than morally and aesthetically ugly, and Sky appears to consist of a combination of football (ie, rubbish) and cheap American children's programmes (ie, rubbish). Just think of the money you'd save if you had neither. Just think of all the money you could spend on more worthwhile things, too.

My 2 year old son is going on his first trip to Disneyland in a couple of months. I cannot wait. He spent today at Gulliver's World getting a taster for the rides

I personally don't think that age appropriate programmes have any influence on the way our children behave.

My eldest is a complete and utter nightmare at the moment. It's not because of TV or computer games. It's because of my parenting. When I was a child I respected my parents even if I didn't agree with them. Ds considers himself my equal and will not accept my authority. He will accept dh's word but not mine.

I have tried sanctions but they don't work. I don't know how to deal with him at the moment.

Studies have shown that children who watch television where the children talk back or out smart the adults then copy that behaviour.

Doesn't make it the fault of the Disney channel though - it's down to the parents to put an end to that sh*t before it gets out of control!

I had to stop DS1 reading HH for the reasons other posters mentioned above. DS1 started to be rude and think it was funny to copy Horrid Henry. He is on the autistic spectrum, which I think makes it hard for him to understand what behaviour is acceptable and what behaviour might be funny to read about or watch, but should not be repeated. So I just had to ban the books.

But I agree you can't just blame a programme and do nothing about it - the behaviour needs to be addressed.

Peppa Pig is a cunt, and her brother is a spoilt brat.

Oh Latin america, you've did it again

It's pretty easy to turn off live TV and then just download/stream stuff for your kids to watch. Cancel your TV subscription and just have broadband. Easy.

I could never claim to be hugely strict about TV or video games. I just can't bear Disney or similar.

I think I Carly is the worst. No respect for adults or anyone. Programmes like that definitely set a bad example. It's then a vicious cycle. Good parents ban it or try to stop their children copying it. Less good parents blame it but don't deal with it at all. Crap parents aren't bothered.

The attitude and lack of respect becomes more normalised and acceptable within their peer groups. It then makes it much harder for concerned parents to work against it. Not impossible, just more difficult.

I was banned from watching Marmalade Atkins :o