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AIBU....to insist my DD (almost 18) gets a bloody job before we teach her to drive?

88 replies

SmallerThanSmall · 31/08/2013 15:34

DD thinks the world owes her and we are out of order for refusing to teach her to drive if she doesn't get off her arse and get a job.
Today was the final straw when she got her hair done and was going to borrow money for (another) piercing, then asked if we could pay for her driving licence, oh, and don't forget I need all new stuff for school!...

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BackforGood · 31/08/2013 19:20

To be fair wannabe - other people think my dc are nice, but I'm also cackling at the idea of teens being grateful for things you give them Grin

EBearhug · 31/08/2013 19:35

My parents gave us driving lessons for our 17th birthdays, because we lived on a farm, and there was no public transport. Mostly, they were fed up with ferrying us about everywhere. Smile But they did also see it as an essential skill because of where we lived, and had an argument with school about it being a life skill, and useful for CVs and therefore, it should be okay to use free lessons in the 6th form for driving lessons (don't remember the outcome; I'd left by that point.) On the other hand, I have a cousin who didn't learn to drive till her 50s and was planning to move out of London to the back of beyond - you don't need to be able to drive in London, because there is public transport everywhere. So I think a lot depends on where you live as whether it counts as essential or a luxury.

However, while my parents did pay for that (and swimming lessons and other activities like Guides), by the time we got to 6th form, we were expected to buy any non-essentials ourselves, so any piercings and non-school clothes and music and books and cinema outings would have to come from our allowance or Saturday/summer jobs, and we knew that and knew we'd need a good case to ask for things.

We always knew we'd be getting driving lessons - which I wasn't actually that happy about - I didn't take that well to driving, and it took me to my 4th test and being on betablockers before I actually passed, and I'd left home by then, so I failed to save my parents from ferrying me around. I then didn't drive for 7 years, except when they made me, as I couldn't afford to run a car, and didn't particularly want to anyway, and wasn't earning enough to afford it. I did take some refresher lessons when I finally did get a car.

I certainly include "full driving licence" on my CV, and I am expected to drive from time to time in my current role, and when I've been looking for work, it widens the range of jobs I can look at, because I don't have to be reliant on somewhere in walking/cycling distance or on a public transport route.

So, I think it depends where you live as how important it is, but I don't think you are being unreasonable to expect her to make some contribution, because she is going to need to fend for herself at some point, and she'll need to make choices about what she can and can't afford, so she may as well get some practice in now, and if that means getting a job to afford more things, then - that's how life works, mostly.

EBearhug · 31/08/2013 19:39

God, I do witter on. Sorry about the length.

wannabedomesticgoddess · 31/08/2013 19:42

I find it very sad that those who find the idea of a grateful and respectful teenager funny have the opinion that their own children are not those things.

Very very sad indeed.

BackforGood · 31/08/2013 19:47

Real life wannabe

Deep down, if challenged by someone, I'm sure my dc are grateful, but it's just not in the nature of the vast majority of teens to be expressing it to their parents whilst they are experiencing the teenage years.

Fact, I'm afraid.

littlemisswise · 31/08/2013 19:47

My teens are very grateful for the things DH and I give them. They are respectful too.

wannabedomesticgoddess · 31/08/2013 19:53

I was a very well behaved teen. Worked from 14. Never missed school. Did housework. I was polite. I paid for my own things once I was working. I paid for my own driving lessons, bought my own car.

My mum thought I was "on drugs" because I was "so difficult." Honestly, I don't know wtf that woman wanted from me.

Perhaps that's why I see it differently.

whatever5 · 31/08/2013 19:59

My parents paid for my driving lessons (rural area) and actively discouraged us from getting jobs (I did get a job when I was 16 but my mother was not happy and persuaded me to drop it after a year).

I will probably do the same for my children and I don't think that your dd is being at all spoilt to ask for driving lessons. She needs to understand that if you can't afford them it's tough luck though. She shouldn't try and make you feel that you are "out of order".

He11y · 31/08/2013 20:44

Our older children both paid for their own driving lessons once they were earning.

They arranged it all themselves too - no input from us at all with the paperwork or organising.

I did give one of them some top up lessons and she now shares my car, but she pays her share of the insurance premium and puts petrol in when need be.

She's saving for her own car now.

They appreciate it more when they've made the effort.

My nephew has had it all done for him and has written off three cars to date. Mummy and daddy will provide another so why should he worry!

He11y · 31/08/2013 20:51

When I say I gave top up lessons, I mean with me in my car, not that I paid for top up lessons.

cushtie335 · 31/08/2013 22:01

Now it's clear why wannabe is so defensive

Andro · 31/08/2013 23:01

A teenager does not need to drive and part time student jobs are still available.

I needed to drive if I wanted to stop relying on the generosity of my best friend's parents to get me to school and back to my parents house at the end of term (I was a boarding school and unless my father was home I was stuck miles away facing a nightmare journey with all my kit). OP gives no indication of the environment they live in in her OP, the importance of being able to drive and ease of finding employment differs hugely depending on location and circumstances.

I was fortunate that my father thought driving was an essential skill and offered to pay for me to learn, he also bought me my first car - something I would never have dreamed of asking for!

There is a huge difference between a parent choosing to pay for things and a child asking/demanding/expecting/stropping.

NoComet · 31/08/2013 23:05

Living in a public transport free rural area, driving lessons were everyone's 17 birthday present unless their parents were absolutely down to bread and water.

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