Page 21 | To think size 12 is not "heavy"

CruCru · 2013-08-30T17:51:24+00:00

I keep seeing comments on here from people who are size 10/12 who think they are heavy. I would never think this is even remotely heavy, just a healthy slim size.

RussiansOnTheSpree · 01/09/2013 13:33

Thinking that being able to walk for 2 miles is worthy of mentioning is an indicator that your view of what constitutes fit is a bit skewed. Pointing out that you seem mistaken about something is not an indicator that I haven't read your post. It's an indicator that I disagree with one of the opinions implied in that post.

If you didn't mean to imply that being able to walk for 2 hours was anything noteworthy then why mention it? You said your endurance was amazing. The evidence you offer to back up this claim doesn't stack up, that's all.

RussiansOnTheSpree · 01/09/2013 13:34

Did you actually mean 'normal' or 'nothing special' rather than amazing?

Why don't people write properly any more?

wharrgarbl · 01/09/2013 13:37

FFS

RussiansOnTheSpree · 01/09/2013 13:40

Look, if you don't like people picking up on ridiculous hyperbole, then don't use ridiculous hyperbole. And don't criticise people for not reading your posts properly if you have employed ridiculous hyperbole.

working9while5 · 01/09/2013 13:40

Birdsgottafly has it. People make it about health when really their concern I'd appearance. Like many others I've been everything from a 10 to a 16 and my heartrate, bp etc are all impeccable. When I was a size 12 my BMI was 21 on the nose and I'm not even that tall. It's all so irrelevant. Look at the bitchiness on this thread! Russian you might look round at a size 12 but it doesn't necessarily follow you would be unhealthy.

Why are women so stupidly obsessive about this? It's so narcissistic.

working9while5 · 01/09/2013 13:41

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RussiansOnTheSpree · 01/09/2013 13:44

But the question wasn't is a 12 healthy, it was is a 12 heavy. And it would be on my frame. Because I'm really small. It's entirely possible, I suppose, that I'd be healthy as a 12. But I'd be heavy and I wouldn't be an appropriate size for my frame.

wharrgarbl · 01/09/2013 13:47

Look, if you don't like people picking up on ridiculous hyperbole, then don't use ridiculous hyperbole. And don't criticise people for not reading your posts properly if you have employed ridiculous hyperbole.

MNHQ

OliviaMMumsnet · 01/09/2013 13:50

Oh look. A helpful and healthy link to our talk guidelines
Thanks awfully.

RussiansOnTheSpree · 01/09/2013 13:51

Wharrgarbl if you are going to describe your endurance as pretty amazing, then don't use being able to walk for two hours as an example of that. Because being able to walk for two hours is not an example of amazing endurance. That's all. No need for a from you.

TrucksAndDinosaurs · 01/09/2013 13:51

Well, being able to move about for 2 hours ie walking, and being able to do a short, intense workout is normal but not extraordinary.

RussiansOnTheSpree · 01/09/2013 13:52

Fine. Apparently being able to walk for 2 whole hours is now officially amazing for mumsnet posters.

TrucksAndDinosaurs · 01/09/2013 13:53

I can do that, am a size 12 and have still got a flabby tummy.
I could lose 5-7 lbs more and the belly fat and increase my overall fitness and that would be a good thing; not evidence that I am a weight bore, obsessive, vain or have an ED....

5madthings · 01/09/2013 13:53

Yes I can walk for hours, I have to walk three hours a day for the school run. I do Davina and the Jillian workouts, plus I run and can run 10k in an hour. But I am not supremely fit, I would say I was averagely fit. I can do a reasonable amount of exercise. More than some but less than others. Its an amount that I feel keeps me healthy but nothing spectacular about it!

RussiansOnTheSpree · 01/09/2013 13:54

Trucks actually it's superhuman. According to mumsnet.

hellhasnofurylikeahungrywoman · 01/09/2013 13:58

I'm 5ft 7 and am too big for a 10 yet a 12 is often too big. I am heavier than I have ever been, I carry most of my weight around my hips and thighs, I am miserable about it and today have joined Weightwatchers.

I do think I have a problem with body dysmorphia though as I cannot find one positive thing to say about how I look.

RussiansOnTheSpree · 01/09/2013 13:59

5mad I'm 4 minutes slower than you! (I will console myself with the fact that I run the second 10K in the same time so obviously I'm pacing myself!) I wouldn't say I was any more than averagely fit. A half marathon is definitely my limit. I have a friend who runs full marathons and he is definitely overweight. And yet very fit. Miles fitter than me. I know perfectly well that the relationship between fitness and size is complex and irrelevant for some areas of the size spectrum. But this thread wasn't originally about fitness - the question was is size 12 heavy, the overwhelmingly popular answer was sometimes yes, sometimes no, depends how tall you are - and some people have been determined to change the whole premise of the discussion to try and lob insults at people who either look or behave slightly different to the way they look or behave. Which seems nuts to me. :(

TheOriginalSteamingNit · 01/09/2013 14:03

I can't walk for two hours without becoming very bored, though.

5madthings · 01/09/2013 14:07

Oh yes I agree you can be overweight and still be fit, however in the long run being overweight is not healthy and it tends to catch up on you.

I haven't done a half marathon, I have ummed and ahhed about it but only took up running this year at the end of January. Did c25k and then then bupa 10k in may :) I was always a swimmer and swam long distance is 80lengths in an hour, again no amazing feet to just swim up and down for an hour.

A size 12 for me is heavy on ,my 5 w frame, I have big boobs and hips but am better at a size 10. At the moment I am a 10/12 in that my team fit but I jhave a muffin top, I need to lose 7-10lb. My bmi is 25 and my hip/waist ratio is all good but I would feel better and be healthier with a bit less chub! I am not obsessed at all, very realistic as I could never get down to say 8stone as many people my height are. I have also had five big babies so on the whole am perfectly happy with my size and weight. I dotn obsess, I dont count calories, or deprive myself but I do keep an eye on my weight.

5madthings · 01/09/2013 14:10

See I like going for a good walk, we often do with the madthings, they need a good walk/run around or they drive me mental. Go somewhere nice tho, with views etc.

We are going to Whitby in a fortnight naught naughty taking the kids out of school for a holiday and am looking forward to walking holkham hole (sp) and along the coastline etc :)

RussiansOnTheSpree · 01/09/2013 14:11

Nit - that's what audiobooks are for! Although I normally run rather than walk. And right now I'm just looking at my poor hurty foot and thinking poor me (and having visions of lieutenant bush, obvs.......)

Birdsgottafly · 01/09/2013 14:19

"Oh yes I agree you can be overweight and still be fit, however in the long run being overweight is not healthy and it tends to catch up on you."

Not according to medical science, there is a difference to being 7 pounds overweight, or bordering obese, though.

5madthings · 01/09/2013 14:34

Yes there is a difference between 7lbs and being a stone/two stone overweight but people tend to put on weight as they age. So a stone overweight in your 30's might be OK but chances are you will put on more weight and become less active as you get older, therein lies the problem. My sil was a very slim size 8 when I met her, she has very slowly as she reached her forties put on weight. Say 7-10lb over a year, but she is now at least a size 16 and massively unfit at 42, she struggles with my school run walk. And now has a big battle to get to a healthy weight/level of fitness. If you keep an eye on your weight and stay a reasonably healthy weight (and my healthy weight still gives me a bmi of 23/24) then you are less likely to have health problems.

Weight can really affect your mobility, especially your joints etc. I have seen it with my own family. I want to keep healthy and active as long as possible, part of that is maintaining my weight.

Thumbwitch · 01/09/2013 14:46

I agree with you, 5madthings.

I found that when I hit 35, things started to go a bit wrong for me - up until then I'd been able to pretty much eat what I liked, and had plenty of muscle to burn up what I ate - but hurting my back and developing ongoing sciatica put paid to my regular badminton, reduced my ability to walk for as long (down to a max of 1.5h before my leg started to drag) and slowly I started to put on weight, mostly around my middle. Then when my muscle:fat ratio reached a certain tipping point, I put on weight a lot faster. Now in my mid-40s, suffering from not only having had DS2 last year but also from middleaged spread, it's hellishly difficult to shift it!

I need to lose a good 2 stone in reality, 3 if I was being vain (which I'm so not) - but 2 for health reasons. And I need to work out some way to rebuild my muscles without setting off the sciatica again (have other back problems now too). Cycling would be favourite but it's very hilly here, our decent bike+baby carrier was stolen last year and hasn't been replaced yet, and DS2 is too small to sit in the carrier yet anyway.

Talkinpeace · 01/09/2013 14:47

BMI WAs NOT made up by the man from Met Life.
Go back and watch the Jacques Peretti programme again.
BMI is not rubbish. It is statistically and scientifically valid.

Be overweight if you want to but why should I pay for your long term health care if its self inflicted.

As one of the skinnies on the thread (who is honest enough to post pictures and detailed information about my size) I do not have an eating disorder.
Overweight people do.