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AIBU?

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To think this is a really good idea for parents and other passengers on a plane?

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poppingin1 · 27/08/2013 17:18

Scoot Airlines are introducing no cry zones.

You pay an extra £10 to sit away from all children under twelve.

As a parent with a young toddler I would not only utilise this when flying without my DD, but would also feel more relaxed when flying with her knowing those in my cabin most likely opted out of the 'no cry zone' so won't mind if my DD makes a little noise now and again.

I wouldn't allow my DD to disturb people usually when travelling, just think this would allow me to feel a little less tense about her making noise where I can't prevent it or it takes a little longer to soothe her etc...

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VoiceOfRaisin · 27/08/2013 17:24

Yes, a good idea in principle but OTOH smacks of airlines trying to charge for more and more extras.

Quiet Zones on trains work well but you don't pay extra for them.

Themarriedwoman · 27/08/2013 17:24

It's just another way for the airline to make more money.
Why should the quiet people be penalised? I think it would be far more effective to fine parents every time their children made a noise.

CaptainCapybara · 27/08/2013 17:25

I think it's good in theory but in practise how many rows would you have to be away from kids in order not to hear them, unless there are separate sections of the plane far away from each other it is possible people will still have to listen to crying. The cynic in me says it's just a money spinner by the airline and won't work in reality like pre booked seats that they can take back off you if they feel like it.

TSSDNCOP · 27/08/2013 17:27

What happens if you've paid 10 quid and you're in the last row before the cry zone. Unless its going to have soundproof walls it's going to be a gimmick.

Amibambini · 27/08/2013 17:30

Ha! This seems to me like a scam idea.

No-one would willingly sit near a crying child. And some kids, like tiny babies, will cry and there is nothing you can do about it.
Basically, everyone is going to want to pay an extra tenner to not sit near kids. However, not everyone is going to be able to do this as those seats will be limited, leaving some people with no choice and also (if scoot is a budget airline), it might be slightly more than someone is willing to pay for a ticket.
So, some passengers ore still going to be sitting near a crying child and they are no less or more deserving of a scream filled flight than those in the 'cry free' zone.
Basically when it comes to kids on flights, suck it up and bring ear plugs.

Sunnysummer · 27/08/2013 17:36

Effective to fine parents every time their child made a noise? That is a joke, right? Because it's one thing if you have a bad-mannered 5 year old running around shouting while mum and dad are snoozing away on sleeping pills (happened to us on a recent flight. Not Okay), and another if you have a 3 month old with no idea of what is going on and a lot of pain from the pressure on takeoff.

A quiet zone would have saved the grumpy gentleman who gave us death stares the whole flight after DS cried for 5 minutes on takeoff, and saved us from his stage whispered "selfish pricks, who needs to take a holiday with a child that young?" (Answer - no one, but there are people who have to travel to introduce their baby to a very sick parent who wants to see their grandchild before the end). Sorry for rant, still grumpy...

Jan49 · 27/08/2013 17:37

It doesn't seem fair to me to ask a passenger to pay extra to be seated away from other people's noisy crying children. If anyone pays extra, it should be the people with the dc.

Maybe there should just be an area which is specifically for people with children, no extra charge. So the airline would whenever possible put people with children in the children's area and if the number of children on a particular journey is too few and other passengers without dc need to sit in that area, they are offered something like a voucher or free drink for opting for that area.

Hulababy · 27/08/2013 17:37

It's also not just babies and toddlers though - it is all children under 12.
My DD is 11y and never makes a sound on the plane - she's too busy watching all the movies and enjoying her plane food! Why do we have to sit with all the noise?

As someone else says - if you are the back row of the no cry zone, are you really not going to be able to hear the crying toddler?

Planes are noisy anyway ime - the engine noise alone is noisy, then there are people talking and walking about, the air stewards asking questions and walking up and down the aisles, the pilot and the steward in charge forever making various announcements, various beeps and bleeps too.

Can I have a zone where I don't have to sit near some noisy grown up who has enjoyed too much alcohol, is now talking loudly to his mate and staggers up the aisle and stands around near the steward place where they can buy even more alcohol, and then at his own seat insists on laying his seat right back even during the meal times?

superram · 27/08/2013 17:37

Plus not everyone attempts to quieten their children now (sen, babies excluded) and many some parents would allow the child area to become a free for all screechy, moany area.

12thDoctorsCompanion · 27/08/2013 18:01

And as for the 'quiet areas' on trains....ha ha ha ha ha. erm- no, they are never quiet.

Delayingtactic · 27/08/2013 18:14

Oh god I would have paid if there was a judgement free zone for parents with dc. My DS (who had lulled us into a false sense of security by being an angel on the flight out) freaked out at take-off. He's 2.5 and all he wanted to do was sit on my lap but instead I had to pin him to the seat for take off and until the seat belt sign went off. He didn't just cry, he screamed. I hated every second of it, not least because I couldn't comfort my son, but people were giving me death stares and making snidely remarks. I would have paid extra to be in an area where people were more understanding.

DollyTwat · 27/08/2013 18:19

Can I book myself into the no cry zone and my children into the crying seats?

Bluebell99 · 27/08/2013 18:19

Noisy children don't bother me, what bothers me is selfish idiots who recline their seats into your face. I even had this on my last shorthaul midday flight. Only reclined seat as far as I could see. Also the selfish family whose two teenagers took a window seat each (leaving two aisle seats) on the transfer coach so there were no seats left where my family could sit together!

PeriodMath · 27/08/2013 18:22

Hideous idea. I always try to sit far away from other families when traveling with my own 3 yr old who is generally a very good traveller. The thought of being penned in with loads of yelling brats and ineffective parents/performance parents is quite depressing.

Why should my child have to put up with the noisy crowd climbing the walls when he is happy to sit quietly watching the iPad or having a story?

PeriodMath · 27/08/2013 18:25

And yes, there are far more adults behaving in an anti-social fashion on planes: using both arm rests, reclining their seat from take-off to landing, up and down to stretch their legs every five mins, lolling on the side of your seat to socialise with their friend sitting opposite because they didn't get seats together...etc etc

froken · 27/08/2013 18:25

I'm very afraid of flying, I sob throughout the flight usually, next week I will be flying with my 8 month old son, I think it is more likely to be me than him crying on that flight.

PeriodMath · 27/08/2013 18:28

It would also mean some parents would consider the "children's area" a free-for-all for any level of noise and would cease to make even the slightest effort to control their children. And if anyone was to object, they'd say "Well, you shouldn't be sitting in the family area should you?"

I can just imagine it.

dandydorset · 27/08/2013 18:30

i dont know why airlines just dont ban children full stop

oh and pubs, resturants,cinemas and any other public gathering

no wonder were all so intolerant of children the way things are going

i do laugh though when some say they would pay to sit elsewhere,not because their children annoy others their's are always perfectly behaved its eveybody elses

course it is

PeriodMath · 27/08/2013 18:32

dandydorset, unless you know everyone else's children, your sarcasm is unfounded and unfair.

BrokenSunglasses · 27/08/2013 18:36

I think it's a good idea too, most likely to be utilised by those who have more money than sense or people who are doing a difficult journey for some reason and don't want to be disturbed by children.

I can't see why anyone would have a problem with it. I wouldn't pay it but if other people wanted to, that's up to them.

teacherandguideleader · 27/08/2013 18:37

The child screaming the place down on my recent flight was at the back, I was at the front and could still hear her so I can't see how no cry zones would work. I never expect it to be quiet on a plane so it doesn't bother me.

I find my ipod is rather effective at blocking out the noise.

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poppingin1 · 27/08/2013 18:48

Well after reading your replies I think what I would prefer is a zone I can opt into as a parent. When I travel with my DD I am acutely aware of any small noise she makes, especially now we have hit the terrible two's. Delay I can imagine my DD doing the same thing when we fly with her for the first time next summer, I am dreading it!

I wouldn't treat the area as a 'free for all' so I didn't think other parents would, but I can see how that could happen.

I would have assumed the airline would put up some form of sound protection to avoid the noise travelling.

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HenriettaPye · 27/08/2013 18:53

How horrid of the people saying it should be the parents of young children having to pay extra. I think you are forgetting that flying in an aeroplane is a form of public transport!

Edendance · 27/08/2013 18:58

What about it you've got a little one who wants to sleep the whole way but can't cause they're not allowed in the 'quiet area'... ooops! You can never please everyone!

Good idea in principle but I think they should automatically put young children in a specific area (with the parents obviously) anyway- for free.

Jan49 · 27/08/2013 19:02

How horrid of the people saying it should be the parents of young children having to pay extra. I think you are forgetting that flying in an aeroplane is a form of public transport!

It's just a suggestion. I don't know really. That's why I suggested a children's area with no costs involved. But if a child behaves badly or screams for ages, that's very distressing and unfair on other passengers who aren't travelling with children but have to put up with it.

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