to think miley cyrus should stop now

[MrsBucketxx]

Something about that girl gives me the creeps.

Maybe she is too masculine, to full on, to manic.

Its the same with riannah its not big and its not clever I wish they would vanish.

Aaarrrggghhh rant over

I'm 24 and I've never done what Miley did. It's perfectly possible to rebel as a teenager without gyrating everywhere in your underwear.

I used to dance in clubs, professionally. But never acted like that.

I have too much self respect unlike mikey it seems

I had a few piercing and drank sometimes. I never Pranced about in next to nothing or humped inanimate objects everywhere, and my tongue could stay in my mouth.

LesMiss and Pictish have it.

Whether or not she is on drugs is nothing to do with the pearl-clutching slut-shaming going on. If she's on drugs that's tragic. If she's to be reviled because she cut her hair off and doesn't want to dress like 'real women'-Marilyn, Nigella-that's also pretty fucking tragic.

I totally agree with you. Just - eeuw.

They are a terrible role model to young girls. We women have sad thread after sad thread in relationships, about struggling with men who can connect emotionally, exchange shallow infatuation/sex with proper connection, and here they are modelling that shallow to girls.

As opposed to Beyonce and even Lady Gaga - two intelligent feisty, independent women.

The tongue thing looks like it was planned - mirroring the teddy on her outfit. I don't agree that it's a sign she's in drugs.
The whole performance would have been choreographed and rehearsed. I'm unhappy that the outrage is focused on the 20 year old woman, not the 36 year old man who also agreed to and rehearsed this performance. This awful man's rapey song is about a 'good girl' - that would be former child star Miley, I presume. It is all publicity for both of them.

Year no. It's a general "thing" with her...she does it all the time. the outfit was a comment on that.

Agree with Manicmumsday (great name btw!)

Another Lohan/Bynes/Britney, and if it carries on, probably another Amy Winehouse/whitney Houston/.

and all to be 'cool' (or whatever the current 'street' word for it is!)

Some interesting views on here. I find the references to 'pearl clutching' rather patronising. I thought it was an embarrassing and uncomfortable performance, because she did not seem in control of herself, any the dance with Thicke seemed very wrong, particularly given the age gap and the fact that he is married. It's all a bit grotesque really, I hope she isn't heading for some sort of Lohan/Spears-type breakdown.

I like her new look - not sure the whole but thrusting is all that good but it's certainly got her a lot of attention - so in those terms it's been successful.

can't anyone be pretty, and talented AND normal anymore?

I fixed it for you, slim doesn't need to come into it. People can be large & still be pretty & talented.

I'm interested to know why people think Beyonce and Ga Ga are somehow in a different league.

Beyonce never stops shaking her arse, dances in a very suggestive, sexual way, wears next to nothing on stage. All this has increased with her age. She is also non-sensical when she speaks and is married to a rapper who decided when his daughter was born that he would no longer refer to women in his songs as whores and bitches.

As for Ga Ga, please google her VMA outfit - particularly the rear view and tell me she's classier than Miley.

I have no idea who she is or what she's done. She needs to wear a pettitcoat and stays by the sound of it, however.

Who the fuck watches the MTV awards anyway?

Hats off to anyone with the confidence to dance in public. I doubt there'd be drugs strong enough to induce me to, but then I'm not a gorgeous young performer in her prime. Er, very not, in fact.

I am going to order a foam finger. Looks like fun!

Different adel fits all those criteria and more.

Beyonce and Gaga are, whenever I have seen them perform, in control and on their game. Plus I have not seen them do things that were quite as explicit as what Miley did. I must admit that one thing that may jade my view is although Miley is 20, she looks younger, and that makes it all seem worse somehow too, although of course that is not her fault. I also think that the fact that just a few years ago she was a children's entertainer and now she is performing in such a provocative way is wrong.

diff I wasn't talking about anyone else I was talking about her.

This is seriously why I don't watch performances any more. Because it all seems to have stopped being about how well someone can sing. And more about how "sexy and outrageous" they can be.

I don't think it's sexy at all. And it s certainly isn't a role model to aspire to is it. Lets teach all these young girls that to make it you have to show off your figure by wearing virtually nothing and dance like your on drugs.

Don't most if them mime these days because you can't possibly bound around like that and sing to the best of your ability.? Which proves its all about "looking good"

What would be nice would be to see them in a regular outfit with just a guitar and a microphone, be interesting to see how well many of these singers would do then.

Yeah she's lucky enough to have that kind of figure right now, god knows I'd trade my flabby frame for it. But she just didn't have to be so , well, full on and cringeworthy.

How can anyone here categorically state she's on drugs?!

She's a performer. Performers need audience reaction. That's what she's getting from this. We are discussing it on a mums forum. People who hadn't seen it have now gone and googled it because it's being discussed here. Therefore, job done for her. Same as the blurred lines song... All to provoke the reactions they are now clearly receiving. Best thing to do if you find it shocking... say nothing.

Also, this had happened right throughout the ages. Elvis, the stones, Madonna, Marilyn Manson. Take your pick!

My 19 year old flatmates constantly post pictures of themselves sticking their tongues out in all directions. I think it's the new duck face...

Isshoes, I think you're are absolutely right that Miley's appearance - she really doesn't look more than 16 to me - colours our perception.

Ok neo maxi, I never thought of that, but the fact is they are controlled from a young age. Have u noticed how the biggest stars had someone apparently look after them as a child until they made it big and throughout their career i.e Michael Jackson, madonna, britney. To me there's something sinister there. Britney wouldn't be the first to say "I'm sick of them handling me" as soon as she shaved her hair off. It makes me wonder about the industry. The same is happening with this girl. She will have a breakdown soon I'm sure just like britney, and some actresses I can think of.
Madonna wasnt a child star and she did it bigger and better than all the pretenders

I find this thread rather embarrassing.

It's a publicity stunt geez. How many people are talking about her? There was like 300,000 tweets every minute about it or something.

The VMA is about shocking - Kayne West interrupting Taylor Swift and Madonna kissing Britney.

I watched a video of her on the Ellen show having a tea party with Sophia Grace and Rosie.

Intervention?Drugs? Lol this place.

I find the bitchiness on here laughable tbh. She is a young, good looking and very successful Woman.
The jealousy emanating from the majority of you on here is quite frankly embarrassing. Live and let live she is doing in no one any harm.

I wish people wouldn't ascribe motives to others. I am NOT jealous, offended, shocked, or any of the other emotions other people seem keen to ascribe to me simply because I don't like Miley Cyrus's performance.

I don't know her and haven't really come across her beyond this thread so I can't comment on whether I like her or dislike her, but the fact that I don't like her performance is not a reflection on her personally. That's part of the sad thing about it. Her role could have been fulfilled by any young, sexually attractive woman.

Her antics weren't particularly shocking in the context of a mainstream pop-music setting. That's what makes me sad. At some point in the last 20 years it became normal for female singers to parade around half-naked gyrating like models in a porn film. That's now as much a part of their performance as their voice. For every Adele there are numerous Mileys.

Sadly, all this does is reinforce over and over again that women should be judged on sex appeal first and talent second. It trickles down to all of us, leading to the objectification of ordinary women on the street and jewel-studded bras for 9-year-olds. I don't like that. It doesn't make me jealous or pearl clutching.

Miley Cyrus is not responsible for this culture and I don't blame her for doing it - few would say no when given vast sums of money for doing it and a little artistic input that can give them the delusion of being 'empowered'. But I think it is very damaging for women everywhere.