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to think miley cyrus should stop now

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MrsBucketxx · 27/08/2013 08:34

Something about that girl gives me the creeps.

Maybe she is too masculine, to full on, to manic.

Its the same with riannah its not big and its not clever I wish they would vanish.

Aaarrrggghhh rant over

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LessMissAbs · 27/08/2013 09:51

OP Maybe she is too masculine, to full on, to manic

Wheresmycalf I always find it odd though when naturally really pretty young women who already look lovely, think that the next step is to hack off the hair, wear virtually nothing and call jumping everything in sight dancing

Yes, of course, she should concentrate on being pretty and insipid and getting dumped by boyband members. Taylor Swift seems to shag a hell of a lot of different men but because of her girly image is deemed beyond criticism.

I actually find Miley Cyrus beginning to grow on me. Her songs are growers too. Shes slightly refreshing in a jaded business, and has a massive fanbase. She looks so much better with short hair and is slim and athletic. I don't really find her terribly shocking, its all pretty stage managed anyway. Theres a long history of rather aggressive female singers who do very well.

But yes, how dare she have short hair!!!

NeoMaxiZoomDweebie · 27/08/2013 10:18

Less there's nothing refreshing about what she does....it's all been done before. People are concerned that she appears to be on drugs mainly. Her performance was all over the place...not professional or interesting....just awful.

Fairy130389 · 27/08/2013 10:21

I think it is sad. I cringed watching the performance. I couldn't put my finger on what made it so uncomfortable, agree that it felt manic and also thought she had taken something.

StupidFlanders · 27/08/2013 10:22

lessmissabs explained it better.

LessMissAbs · 27/08/2013 10:25

Neo People are concerned that she appears to be on drugs mainly. Her performance was all over the place..

I suspect its choreographed to look like that. Her video for the first song has exactly the same style of dancing and has been on MTV for months.

As I said on the other thread, I actually find some of Beyoncé's dance moves more offensive, because she is marketed as a wholesome type of entertainer that young girls are meant to aspire to. Miley Cyrus is marketed slightly different, and the perceptions of the audience are tweaked accordingly.

Dahlen · 27/08/2013 10:27

I just had to do a bit of googling to see what the fuss was about, but nothing I've seen makes me feel more appalled than anything I've come across in the recent past.

Music performances today are basically soft porn. I have no problem with 'artistes' representing themselves in whatever way they want to, but let's call it what it is and slap an age certificate on it to prevent the continuing trend of sexualisation of young children, particularly girls (interesting how all the men seem to wear suits and it's only the girls who are half naked).

I can accept that performers don't want to be pigeonholed as child entertainers. I can accept that they haven't necessarily signed up to be role models and so have the right to express themselves in an adult way. However, given that it is well known that the main fan-base (those with the spending power who launch these stars' careers) are young people, would it really hurt the music execs and performers to produce two videos for each song which can be aired at different times and to lessen the porn element when performing at events that are known to have a family audience?

RobotHamster · 27/08/2013 10:30

Its all just publicity, isn't it?

And its working :)

NeoMaxiZoomDweebie · 27/08/2013 10:31

Abs when you look back a year or two, her performance and dancing were FAR more slick....she was singing Gypsy Heart live and yes it was rocky and not very disney but it was also well exectuted. She IS all over the place and I'm not talking about a bit of freestyle dancing here...she's off the beat and her voice isn't right either.

Tiredemma · 27/08/2013 10:37

I think she is also on drugs (tongue rolling etc)

A car crash.

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MrsBucketxx · 27/08/2013 10:40

Why someone in her circle isnt saying what we are all thinking is beyond me.

If she watched herself when sober im sure she would feel the same

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pictish · 27/08/2013 10:40

LessMiss has it for me. I couldn't care less about the girl, but am amused at all the outrage that she dare have short hair and be overtly sexual. It's her life people! Hannah Montana was a long time ago. It was about a little girl. Miley Cyrus is no longer a child, and you all need to get over it now.

I aw all the media fuss, watched the video and thought so what?

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MrsBucketxx · 27/08/2013 10:42

She us trying to be sexy and isn't thats what jars me somewhat.

Sexy isnt whatever she IS doing.

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pictish · 27/08/2013 10:45

In your opinion. She's entitled to do whatever the fuck she likes I think. She doesn't owe us anything.

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MrsBucketxx · 27/08/2013 10:46

She can do what she likes yes, wont stop comments of her when she puts herself in the public eye.

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LookAtTheTwain · 27/08/2013 10:47

I've seen the same and worse from -

Madonna,
Rhianna,
Britney,
Christina,
Beyonce,
Jesse, and way more 'artists' what a joke tbh.

All separately and together sometimes. Oh Lady Ga Ga too.

Yawn...

OctopusPete8 · 27/08/2013 10:48

I think masculine is perhaps more childlike?

she doesn't look like a woman at all and is a similar age to me. The fact she looks like a child makes it more creepy.

NeoMaxiZoomDweebie · 27/08/2013 10:49

Pictish I have no problem with short hair or wild dances...be sexy do what you like and be happy I say...but she's not looking "right" somehow. I hope she gets some help.

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MrsBucketxx · 27/08/2013 10:51

Maybe thats what it is, not womanly.

Sexy to me is, Marilyn, nigella, etc.

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pictish · 27/08/2013 10:51

Some of us have better things to do than go in the huff because some el crappo child star has the audacity to grow into a woman who doesn't pander to the expectations that she will be a wholesome little girl forever.

She hasn't done anything that hasn't been done before a million times over, by many.

This is not Myley Cyrus's problem, but that of those who are easily offended and stuck in their ways.

She's not Hannah Montana any more. Move on now!

MorphyBrown · 27/08/2013 10:52

Whatever she is, you calling her 'too masculine' and then changing it to 'too overtly sexual' is odd.

She's just not very good at it. It looks try hard and jarring. The tongue thing is part of the 'branding'. Look at the image on the t shirt she was wearing when she performed with the bear.

LessMissAbs · 27/08/2013 10:53

OP Why someone in her circle isnt saying what we are all thinking is beyond me. If she watched herself when sober im sure she would feel the same

Because the whole performance is choreographed like that to make her a fortune. Because you, and people like you's outrage, will make her famous and the money will roll in. Just as it did with Madonna 20 years ago. The Grammys always go for shock and awe tactics, and surprisingly, it is still working.

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MrsBucketxx · 27/08/2013 10:55

It was the vma's but anyway.

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pictish · 27/08/2013 10:56

I should imagine she has watched the video and is punching the air in triumph, while you lot clutch your pearls and pass round the smelling salts.

Job done.

justanuthermanicmumsday · 27/08/2013 10:57

Ok neo maxi, I never thought of that, but the fact is they are controlled from a young age. Have u noticed how the biggest stars had someone apparently look after them as a child until they made it big and throughout their career i.e Michael Jackson, madonna, britney. To me there's something sinister there. Britney wouldn't be the first to say "I'm sick of them handling me" as soon as she shaved her hair off. It makes me wonder about the industry. The same is happening with this girl. She will have a breakdown soon I'm sure just like britney, and some actresses I can think of.

I must be the only one who thinks underwear is for the bedroom but each to their own. She can do what she likes yes but not in public. Aren't most of her audience supposed to be kids and young teens. Clearly she's too overrated for them now, no sane parent would take their kid to her concert she's not child friendly.

As for masculine element, maybe she's aiming for the androgynous thing, madonna and prince pushed the boundaries here, I think it's simply to get more attention and a bigger fan base. As for the tongue thing I reckon that's sexual marketing I'm sure she's been told to do it, unless she copying canine behaviour.

LessMissAbs · 27/08/2013 10:58

Maybe thats what it is, not womanly. Sexy to me is, Marilyn, nigella, etc.

That would Marilyn who died young of a possible drugs overdose and slept with abusive, famous married men? And Nigella who recently divorced an abusive, famous man? So that "womanly" image has done them a lot of good!

I'm actually uncomfortable with you describing women as sexy, as if it is some end goal that all must work towards to attain, above all others. I can appreciate other women's attractiveness, and for me, I admire female athletes and an athletic figure, not what a traditional middle aged man wanting an affair would go for. Or what they would like to condition us to think.

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