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AIBU to think that saying the new childcare proposal discriminates against SAHP is like saying JSA discriminates against the employed?

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AnnieLobeseder · 06/08/2013 14:46

So I know it's fairly old news, but the new government proposals to help working parents with childcare costs have been popping up on my BBC newsfeed this week.

Now there are plenty of things wrong with these new proposals, such as the "help" only being available for parents with under-5s to start with, and that students don't count as "employed" so if you're both/one of you are students and need childcare while you're at college you get no help at all. At least they're apparently going to count being a carer as "employed" so families where one parent stays home to care, they will get help with childcare.

However, what I don't understand is why these aren't the issues being highlighted, but instead, just people whining that SAHPs will lose out. Erm, please correct me if I'm missing some fundamental point here, but isn't that because SAHPs, by their very nature, don't need childcare!! That's why they stay at home - to look after their own children.

I've seem quotes that this is a "carrot dangled at SAHMs to tempt them back into work". Um, no, who the heck would put themselves into a situation they don't want for the sake of claiming a benefit they don't really need?

So to my mind, it's like complaining that you aren't entitled to JSA because you have a job, and saying that having JSA for those who need it is "dangling a carrot in front of people with jobs to tempt them into unemployment".

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areujoyful · 08/08/2013 22:57

Flatmum- I would just like to point out that staying at home DOES cost you £1000's each year because YOU are the childcare worker and by staying at home YOU are losing an entire annual income as you don't get paid to look after your own kids. Not all SAHP are yummy-mummy's whose other half has a highly paid job and spend all day shopping. We struggle financially for this decision.

I'm a SAHP (definitely not a rich one) but would imagine that there would have to be some money leftover after the nursery/nanny has been paid to make the going out to work worthwhile, even if it isn't as much as they'd like. SAHP are frustrated because it's not the easy option, can be bloomin' hard work at times (though great fun at others) but you're left feeling like you don't contribute to society because you don't work outside the home, and isn't recognized by the government as a valid role and you are even penalised for making this particular choice.

Whether you go to work or stay at home, either way kids are going to cost you A LOT of money!!!

peteypiranha · 09/08/2013 06:52

I personally think if you arent entitled to tax credits then you cant be struggling for money that much as the thresholds are high for that.

solveproblem · 09/08/2013 07:24

Yes you can petey! Eapecially London a and south east. Our total bill for childcare, rent and council tax is £2200 per month, and we've got cheap rent for this area!

peteypiranha · 09/08/2013 07:43

Sorry I meant if 1 of you is working such as areujoyful as you would have no childcare.

solveproblem · 09/08/2013 08:07

Ok, sorry petey!

GibberTheMonkey · 09/08/2013 08:40

I think they would be better off putting the money into state run subsidised childcare. (Maybe look to Denmark) oh and insisting of flexibility

There is one childminder here who is full with a waiting list. There are two heaving playgroups that only do mornings. I know this is quite common place.

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