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to think at last something has exposed this scandal

274 replies

Crumbledwalnuts · 06/08/2013 04:05

massive amounts paid to charity executives

it's almost a scam

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bruffin · 06/08/2013 08:39

Agree Fourwillies.

Binkybix · 06/08/2013 08:46

Having worked in a charity I agree that people in the part of the charity I worked in were more well paid than public sector equivalents, as well as being of a slightly lower calibre. Their hours were also less and jobs less complex. There was also someone on over 6 figures who was an ineffective manager of the bit I was in.

I know this was just one part of one very big charity though, so may not be the case in all charities. Just my personal experience.

BeckAndCall · 06/08/2013 08:46

So I'm talking bullshit am I lazyjane?

So how many charities do you audit as your day job? Quite a few less than me, I'm guessing........

Bowlersarm · 06/08/2013 08:54

YABU

Unless I'm missing something.

Hasn't David Miliband, the darling of the Labour Party, just taken a high profile job at a charity in New York. For quite a lot of money?

This has been front page news for months. Hardly a dirty little secret.

I fail to see how a scandal has been exposed and it's a scam.

Surely you need top business people to run top businesses?

Lollydaydream · 06/08/2013 08:57

thank goodness you're here beckandcall I was beginning to feel delusional !

bumblebeaver · 06/08/2013 09:02

We recently fundraised for this charity for our wedding. It's run by John Humphrys and has no admin costs.

ClayDavis · 06/08/2013 09:04

Personally, charity for me begins at home and I would rather donate goods, time or services to local charities.

That's all very well, but how exactly do you think the rent, and the heating/electric bill and the phone bill get paid. Not to mention the consumables that people wouldn't think to donate like paper, toner for the photocopier etc.

Fourwillies · 06/08/2013 09:06

We recently fundraised for this charity for our wedding. It's run by John Humphrys and has no admin costs."

They absolutely have admin costs, Hmm but strive to keep them to a minimum.

TheAccidentalExhibitionist · 06/08/2013 09:11

Erm, I can't see the problem with anyone saying they would donate goods, time or services to local charities. Your point shouldn't include a criticism on how this poster chooses to donate Confused

Blissx · 06/08/2013 09:14

Is the OP going to comment and explain why they think it is 'almost a scam'?

Itsjustafleshwound · 06/08/2013 09:20

Sorry - the next segment on the 'fundfest' that is comic relief a poor starving african orphan dying next to the tonerless printer ...

I don't think anyone objects to reasonable costs but be a bit more upfront about it.

ClayDavis · 06/08/2013 09:21

The poster's point was that she would rather give those things than money because she thought that money doesn't go where she thinks it 'should'. If everybody starts to think like that then lots of these charities aren't going to exist at all, particularly the smaller local ones.

bumblebeaver · 06/08/2013 09:21

Fourwillies ok, so not zero admin costs, but I understood he administered the funds on his travels with his work. Just trying to be helpful, not sure that merited a Hmm.

Some charities will be better run than others, like any company.

But in 2005 I was in a part of Sri Lanka hard hit by the tsunami the preceding year and did then think all the brand spanking new USAID 4x4s racing around seemed a bit over the top.

Highlander · 06/08/2013 09:25

Strangely medical charities don't feel compelled to insist that Universities pay research staff a decent wage. Most post-docs are now employed at a grade lower than they were 10 years ago.

BrainGoneAwol · 06/08/2013 09:27

What a ridiculous aibu!

I have worked for a DEC charity. I now work for one that provides a service that the govt should be providing, but farms out (I don't think this is always possible though as a pp said). I have also worked as an auditor and in the commercial sector. I could add at least 40% to my salary if I went back to practice or commerce. I don't because I believe charities are important and I also love what I do.

All charities are audited at least as rigorously as a company. I'll add Housing Corporation as another regulatory body to the lists earlier. Large charities are also likely to have to report under International Standards soon as well.

There are of course some people who abuse the charity system/status but you sadly always get people like this everywhere. The vast majority are doing an amazing job with serious challenges and less reward.

It's gratifying to see so many mners so clued up. I saw the op and was expecting another uninformed bashing Grin

TheAccidentalExhibitionist · 06/08/2013 09:34

Excellent post BrainGoneAwol

Crumbledwalnuts · 06/08/2013 09:34

My husband is stopping his donations to all the charities where the chief executive earns over £100,000 after reading this :) He'll give to smaller and more focussed charities now. There are plenty of them, which manage very well.

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Fourwillies · 06/08/2013 09:37

Your husband is a wally then. Smile

Crumbledwalnuts · 06/08/2013 09:39

Perhaps he's just seen a little more of life than you Smile

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Fourwillies · 06/08/2013 09:39

What??

Crumbledwalnuts · 06/08/2013 09:40

..and is therefore more able to make a judgement:)

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Fourwillies · 06/08/2013 09:42

He's seen enough of life to deduce that in order to run a huge multinational company which has a charitable status and multiple million pound turnover, no one should earn over £100k?

Riight. Bright lad.

AmandaCooper · 06/08/2013 09:43

What??

TheAccidentalExhibitionist · 06/08/2013 09:43

What a shame this thread has descended into personal attacks. I'll leave this thread now.

Crumbledwalnuts · 06/08/2013 09:43

Actually he thinks 100-k is reasonable. Anything over, not at all. The PM earns only 143 and runs the country. 180K is ludicrous. Impossible to justify.

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